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De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 04. Jun 2025, 10:57:40
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 05:37:24 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 6/4/2025 5:23 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us>
wrote:
>
In article <d3vu3k5sec04fbqhmm6sjdktd2t9t5v81r@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any crimes, so
you needn't worry.
>
I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed any
crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the country
illegally and then ship you off.
>
There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the
country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that you
get a hearing.
>
You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to
waive this right.
>
US citizens should indeed get a hearing.
 
Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a hearing to
verify whether they are indeed US citizens?
>
He should, but he doesn't. He believes - under the current
administration - that onus probandi is on the defendant. With regards to
this administration and their cult of followers, it's now "guilty until
proven innocent", with the caveat that they'll be shipped out of the
country before they have a chance to prove it.
>
Once a democrat is back in the oval office, he'll change his opinion and
accuse them of gestapo tactics.

When leftists can't make their points, they try to put words in their
opponents mouths and make forecasts about what they might do. That
hasn't worked well for them, but they still do it.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

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