Sujet : Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 04. Jun 2025, 17:19:27
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kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:59:07 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 6/4/2025 6:43 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
kilmar-abrego-garciaOn Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:27:52 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
Am 04.06.2025 um 11:52 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 11:23:34 +0200, Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de>
wrote:
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Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us>
wrote:
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In article <d3vu3k5sec04fbqhmm6sjdktd2t9t5v81r@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any crimes, so
you needn't worry.
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I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed any
crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the country
illegally and then ship you off.
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There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the
country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that you
get a hearing.
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You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to
waive this right.
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US citizens should indeed get a hearing.
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Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a hearing to
verify whether they are indeed US citizens?
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No
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So you claim to be a US citizen, the government claim you're not.
Should you get a hearing or should the government deport you without a
hearing?
Good grief... I'm not going to respond to your hypothetical question
about something that's not going to happen.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
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>
All sorts of things happen.
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https://www.audacy.com/wbbm780/news/local/51st-murder-case-tied-to-former-cpd-detective-overturned
>
I can't see a policy answer to inherent errors in any large
set with high stakes for the (guilty or innocent)
individual. We do our best. And fail regularly.
I'll answer that question when it happens.. I don't think it'd be
wise to hold your breath.
-- C'est bonSoloman
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