Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:

On 6/4/2025 7:15 PM, zen cycle wrote:

On 6/4/2025 7:46 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/4/2025 6:12 PM, zen cycle wrote:

On 6/4/2025 5:52 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/4/2025 2:53 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 6/4/2025 9:43 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/4/2025 4:30 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 6/3/2025 5:03 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/3/2025 3:10 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 6/3/2025 11:36 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 6/3/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote:

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There was a false statement inserted into a filing in re Kilmar Abrego Garcia that he had been deported in error. The Justice Department employee who added that was fired the next morning and the filing emended...

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Got a citation or other evidence for that claim? And what did the courts say about this issue? And where is Mr. Garcia now?

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Right, The government narrative kept changing, coming up with different excuses, right down to trump retweeting a photo shopped (fake) image of Mr. Garcia with gang tattoos. Once they were unable to convince anyone with any brains that he had no criminal past, they brought out a domestic abuse complaint from ten years ago - complete bullshit as well.
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As Monday morning's NYT for example, whose front page did not cover the immolation of live US citizens, including a Holocaust survivor, in Boulder by an illegal jihadi screaming 'free palestine.' Deemed not interesting enough by editorial staff.

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I don't get a print edition of NYT; but your complaint seems to be that eight people getting various degrees of burns did not get enough attention, despite it being on every news outlet. It looks to me like NYT has since done many articles on the incident and its implications. Are you trying to say NYT does sufficiently protest antisemitism?
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And BTW, what happened was despicable. As you know, I'm firmly against attempts to harm or kill groups of innocent people. But "immolation of live US citizens" is more than a little exaggerated. It usually means burning to death. I gather only one person out of the eight was seriously burned.
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There's no excuse for the attack, but you can slightly relax your grip on your own pearls!
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At his previous 2019 hearing, after his deportation order, the removal was stayed as the judge found that his MS-13 gang membership put him at risk in his old neighborhood controlled by a competing gang.
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(details are messy as he had lived both in El Salvador and in Guatemala)
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https://tennesseestar.com/news/immigration- judges-2019- order- found- kilmar-abrego-garcia- subject-to-removal-by- deportation- but- granted- withholding-of-removal-to- guatemala-though- referencing- el-salvador/ tpappert/2025/04/22/
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The prior administration also denied assistance to Tennessee State Patrol in 2022 when they stopped him in the car of a known trafficker with a load of smuggled illegals while speeding with no valid license. FBI directed TSP to not detain him.
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https://tennesseestar.com/justice/tennessee-highway- patrol- confirms- biden-era-fbi-told-officers-to- release- kilmar-abrego- garcia- during-2022- traffic- stop-despite- speeding-and-license- violations- to/ tpappert/2025/04/17/
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  Uncorroborated allegations.."sources said"...."two (unnamed) judges determined he is likely to be a member of the Central American gang, Mara Salvatrucha"....iow, more trump ICE/DOJ lies to cover their assess.

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The judge who, in 2019, stayed deportation to Guatemala _due to his gang affiliation_ wrote his decision. It was not appealed.
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Got a link? I couldn't find anything except trump DOJ heresay.
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Cited above, it's in the header of the first link, "granted withholding of removal to guatemala though referencing el salvador"

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um...no.
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The named judge in that article - Judge David M. Jones - made absolutely no determination of any gang affiliation. Judge Jones order is linked in the article so you can read it yourself. (here for convenience https:// drive.google.com/ file/ d/1V_yaacfwjS6i02eeCaHoPh64tGvySkVO/)
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Regarding any alleged gang affiliation, The link you provided has no more information than "two [unnamed] judges determined he is likely to be a member of the Central American gang, Mara Salvatrucha".
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It's heresay, and there has been no evidence produced by anyone that Mr. Garcia had any gang affiliation. More trump DOJ bullshit.
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Fair enough, not proved beyond reasonable doubt.
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Here's a question. If you wanted to smuggle eight aliens from the southern border to Maryland, would you make the arrangements with a known MS-13 smuggler, who owned the car in question at the Tennessee traffic stop, or your local Boy Scout troop?
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  Here's a question, Where do you see any information that any of the seven people in the car (excluding garcia) were illegal and that the car was owned by a known smuggler?
  

Apparently you did not find the whole sorry tale as interesting as did I.
https://tennesseestar.com/justice/doj-reportedly-gave-limited-immunity-to-human-smuggler-who-owned-van-driven-by-kilmar-abrego-garcia-for-details-on-2022-trip/tpappert/2025/05/06/
The twist is that FBI directly and immediately advised TSP officers at the scene to not interfere with Mr Abrego Garcia.
Good luck with that if you're ever stopped by State Patrol.
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