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De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
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Date : 05. Jun 2025, 20:55:39
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On 6/5/2025 2:38 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 13:14:40 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 
On 6/5/2025 12:59 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:
In article <1il14k1qafnttu1oeqhfg0qpdfuc6c3o93@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
No, they mnay have got a hearing when they showed that they were
citizens, but not before.
>
And so you must always carry proof of citizenship 100% of the time, or
else you're deported without hearing. Don't leave home without it, kids.
>
>
I'm not advocating either way but merely being a US citizen
and walking around with no ID can get you arrested (depends
on the jurisdiction and circumstances).
>
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Failure-identify-police-officer.htm
>
https://legalclarity.org/do-you-have-to-identify-yourself-to-the-police/
>
There were (are?) places where no ID and "no visible means
of support" is defined as vagrancy = 3 days and a ride to
the county line.  Happened to me, long ago.
 Vagrancy is another thing.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
It's an unclear issue, especially that some States hand out ID and even driving licenses to illegal aliens. US citizen vagrants would imaginably be unable to prove identity while standing next to a deportable illegal with valid ID.
Again I take no position on this or that but "no ID" is a very fuzzy standard.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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