Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:

On 6/5/2025 2:14 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/5/2025 12:59 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:

In article <1il14k1qafnttu1oeqhfg0qpdfuc6c3o93@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

No, they mnay have got a hearing when they showed that they were
citizens, but not before.

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And so you must always carry proof of citizenship 100% of the time, or
else you're deported without hearing. Don't leave home without it, kids.
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I'm not advocating either way but merely being a US citizen and walking
around with no ID can get you arrested (depends on the jurisdiction and
circumstances).
 
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Failure-
identify-police-officer.htm
 
https://legalclarity.org/do-you-have-to-identify-yourself-to-the-police/

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There's a difference between refusing to identify yourself and not
producing identification. The former is generally what your links are
referring to. Failure to produce identification isn't an offense...yet
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There were (are?) places where no ID and "no visible means of support"
is defined as vagrancy = 3 days and a ride to the county line.  Happened
to me, long ago.

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There aren't many enforced statutes anymore for failure to produce ID,
in large part due to the 1972 SCoTUS ruling in Papachristou v.
Jacksonville which invalidated the Jacksonville vagrancy law as
"unconstitutionally vague" (aka "Void for Vagueness").
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The ruling was unanimous and forced states to amend their vagrancy and
loitering laws to the extent that vagrancy is no longer anything more
than an insult.
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https://www.law.virginia.edu/scholarship/publication/risa-goluboff/640716
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papachristou_v._City_of_Jacksonville