Sujet : Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 06. Jun 2025, 19:52:28
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On 6/6/2025 1:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/6/2025 11:01 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/6/2025 9:35 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
... they wanted only English
instruction. That's because knowing English will get them a much
better paying job in the US than Spanish.
>
Same conclusion to the same problem by Italians 100 years ago.
A couple points here:
1) My grandparents were born in Poland, my parents born here. They spoke Polish in the home, but my parents never taught us the language. It was clear they wanted us to be fully American. I now regret their choice. Any language is difficult to learn later in life, and Polish is one of the tougher European languages.
2) One dear friend of mine, for years, taught English As A Second Language to immigrants. Amazingly, she had classes of 10 to 20 students from a mixture of countries; so the majority not only had no English, they had no languages in common with each other. Many were illiterate in all languages, including their own. I can't possibly imagine how a person could teach such a crew, but she had great success. Apparently the objective was not perfect English. Instead it was survival - here's how to use our money, our bus systems, find a job, etc. - but it worked.
When she left that job, I was invited to a "going away" party attended by many of her former students. It was an amazing mixture of nationalities (and ethnic foods and music). You could see they absolutely loved that lady.
Your family's experience mirrors mine. I have the same feeling about the lost opportunity.
-- Andrew Muziam@yellowjersey.orgOpen every day since 1 April, 1971
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