Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:

On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 13:52:28 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 6/6/2025 1:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 6/6/2025 11:01 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/6/2025 9:35 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

... they wanted only English
instruction.  That's because knowing English will get
them a much
better paying job in the US than Spanish.

>
Same conclusion to the same problem by Italians 100 years
ago.

 
A couple points here:
 
1) My grandparents were born in Poland, my parents born
here. They spoke Polish in the home, but my parents never
taught us the language. It was clear they wanted us to be
fully American. I now regret their choice. Any language is
difficult to learn later in life, and Polish is one of the
tougher European languages.
 
2) One dear friend of mine, for years, taught English As A
Second Language to immigrants. Amazingly, she had classes of
10 to 20 students from a mixture of countries; so the
majority not only had no English, they had no languages in
common with each other. Many were illiterate in all
languages, including their own. I can't possibly imagine how
a person could teach such a crew, but she had great success.
Apparently the objective was not perfect English. Instead it
was survival - here's how to use our money, our bus systems,
find a job, etc. - but it worked.
 
When she left that job, I was invited to a "going away"
party attended by many of her former students. It was an
amazing mixture of nationalities (and ethnic foods and
music). You could see they absolutely loved that lady.
 
 

>
Your family's experience mirrors mine. I have the same
feeling about the lost opportunity.

I lost a grandfather before I was born and a grandmother when I was
three. I spent lots of time talking with the two grandparents who
remained and other relatives. I also spent lots of time in the
Wisconsin Historical Library, and other sources, looking up my
ancestry, and tracing what they did and where they came from and where
they lived here in America. Historical research is one of my passions.

--
C'est bon
Soloman