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De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
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Date : 08. Jun 2025, 04:04:27
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On 6/7/2025 9:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/7/2025 7:51 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 14:52:45 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 14:33:05 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 6/6/2025 11:35 AM, Shadow wrote:
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>
    Florida had one of the worse deaths/million population  among
all American states(I'm excluding the blible belt states, because
praying actually increases death rates among practically all
diseases).
    They should have voted for someone more capable of leading the
state.
>
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation- linked-excess-covid-deaths
>
CIDRAP???
>
    No, the source is JAMA. Cidrap is just relaying the
information.
    JAMA is not political, if anything it tends to the right....
    []'s
>
Krygowski apparently believes everything he runs into that
supports his agenda.
  "JAMA is not political, if anything it tends to the right."
 That's hilarious!
 For at least 50 years AMA has been proudly hard left, reflecting its members' positions (which they ought to reflect).  Which is exactly why neither my MD brother nor 85% of US licensed MDs belong to AMA.
 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3153537/
One statement from that article seems to say otherwise: "The AMA’s backing of US President Barack Obama’s health care legislation did not sit well with many physicians and may have cost it some members."
IOW those members were not hard left.
FWIW: One of my music friends was a professor at a medical school, and neuroscience researcher, until he retired. In one long conversation, he bemoaned the fact that his students' characteristics had changed greatly over his career. He said that at the start, the typical student actually was motivated by wanting to help people (as was the physician among my siblings). But he complained that more recently, students were far less altruistically motivated, and far less intellectually or professionally curious. Instead of wanting to learn all they could to best help patients, they wanted to learn what would be "on the test," and what would allow them to work towards the highest paying specialty fields.
Yes, it's an anecdote, and second hand. But for many decades, physicians did no drive super-expensive cars or live in mega-mansions, as so many do today. Doctors pulling in many hundreds of thousands of dollars per year probably see no reason to belong to the AMA at all. And they'd hate to have any government agency lowering the costs of health care.
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- Frank Krygowski

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