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De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
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Date : 08. Jun 2025, 14:48:22
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On 6/7/2025 8:07 PM, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 07:46:18 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
On 6/7/2025 12:17 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/6/2025 7:58 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:
In article <3h004kdpcjthllq8iplvuotaqhh0qunmgv@4ax.com>,
Catrike Ryder  <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
Mr Jorgensen seems to want each illegal to get a hearing. That's not a
workable solution.
>
"Dear Founding Fathers,
>
"This whole 'due process' thing just isn't practical. So we're just
going to cut the judicial system out and let law enforcement decide who
gets deported."
>
>
As noted here previously, US citizens have full civil and process
rights. Legal resident aliens have some, but limited and green cards may
be revoked. Temporary visa (of all types) holders may be removed "at the
discretion of the Secretary of State".  Illegal aliens are subject to
deportation when and where discovered.
>
In a practical sense, a finding of fact (who is this guy really?) is
reasonable and prudent. That is not a trial.
>
>
That's not the point. According to floriduh dumbass if you're accused of
being an illegal immigrant you shouldn't get due process, whether you're
really illegal or not.
 Well (:-) if you are caught robbing the candy store you will enjoy the
'due process:'  :-)
--
cheers,
 John B.
 
Kinda sorta depending on where and when, not if.
After California Prop 47 it was free candy bars all around. After Prop 36 perhaps less so depending on local policy.
New York had a similar experience and Chicago is yet suffering in the 'free stuff' era.
https://www.newsweek.com/califfornia-proposition-36-changed-shopliffting-2005452
--
Andrew Muzi
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