Sujet : Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 10. Jun 2025, 02:36:27
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On 6/9/2025 4:00 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/9/2025 1:54 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Mon Jun 9 00:16:24 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
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Tell us exactly what President Trump has done that you don't like and offer us an alternative.
I've posted on that topic recently in response to one of your posts. You should have read it, but your "memory" is probably failing you, so here it is again:
He could stop executive actions that are quite obviously illegal, as determined my many judges, including those he himself appointed. He could appoint competent cabinet members instead of incompetent, subservient lackeys. He could stop avalanches of tweets that sound like bitchy teenage girls' insults. He could stop using the office of the presidency to line his pockets and those of his family members. He could stop the war in Ukraine in one day, as he promised - even though that would mean giving up his domination by Putin. He could stop the crazy on-and-off vacillation with tariffs. He could stop cozying up to communists and stop attacking our long time allies.
There have been many more discussions of that point in other places. Here's one dealing with his previous term of office:
"Donald Trump: He promised to cut the deficit. He added $8T to it. He promised to build a wall. He only did 458 miles out of 2,000. Most of it was repair or replacement, not new. He promised to make Mexico pay. They didn't. He promised to unveil a new healthcare plan. It didn't exist. He promised a middle-class tax cut. He cut taxes for the rich. The middle class is paying for it. He said he wouldn't play golf as President. He made 250 visits(way more than Obama) to his own golf clubs. It cost taxpayers $150 million. He said he'd increase economic growth by 4%. He didn't. President Biden did. He promised an infrastructure plan. He had none. President Biden signed a massive one. He promised to hire "the best people." He fired 3/4 of them and then said they were the worst ever. He promised to bring down the price of prescription drugs. He didn't: President Biden did. He promised a Hillary lock-up. It didn't happen. Promised we'd win the trade war with China. We didn't, It cost about a quarter million jobs and hurt Americans not help them. He promised his corporate tax cuts would help and benefit Workers and corporations would use that money to invest in American workers. They didn't, they used that money to buy back stocks. He promised to bring back and revive the coal industry. Never happened - more coal jobs were lost during his presidency. He promised to drain the swamp. He didn't: He WAS the swamp. Jan 6th…never forget!!"
I'll add that now he obviously IS the swamp.
There are several items which are arguable and somewhat subjective but the 2017 tax reform benefited the middle and 2d quintile income taxpayers the most. See Table 2 here.
https://www.cato.org/blog/distribution-tables-distort-tax-policy-debateNote that the lowest 50% of employed USAians pay virtually no income tax (payouts offset withholding ).
https://www.cato.org/blog/distribution-tables-distort-tax-policy-debateYou're welcome opinion but there's the actual data.
Oh, and I (perhaps surprisingly to you) agree the 1st term tariff changes were, on net, destructive for our working taxpayers overall and US industry generally as well. Except for Cleveland Cliffs, everyone else hurt, a lot.
-- Andrew Muziam@yellowjersey.orgOpen every day since 1 April, 1971
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