Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:

On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:48:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 6/10/2025 12:58 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 6/10/2025 11:33 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 6/10/2025 10:55 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 6/10/2025 9:08 AM, AMuzi wrote:

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https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/la-county-and-state- to-purge-15-
million-inactive-voters-from-rolls/6866/

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Inactive voters are registered voters who have not voted in a certain
number of previous elections. Obviously, they had no effect on the
election.
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https://apnews.com/article/ohio-voters-citizenship-
referrals-42799a379bdda8bca7201d6c42f99c65

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Per that link, there were 138 "non-ohio citizens" out of 8 million
votes cast.
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https://www.illinoisreview.com/illinoisreview/2017/09/ chicago-more-
votes-than-registered-voters.html

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This was a right wing media ruse, where cook county votes being
tallied in Chicago - because that's where cook county votes are
tallied - outnumbered the the total number of registered voters in
Chicago.
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welll.....duuuuuhhhhhh.
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To "not significant numbers" I say our elections are routinely
decided on small fractions of 1%.

The evidence is not there to support any accusation that a close
election was decided by illegal votes.

And the right wing strategies to correct this alleged problem almost
invariably hinge on making it more difficult for poor, or minority, or
legitimate immigrant people to vote.
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Andrew has said something like he'd rather see a guilty person go free
rather than have an innocent person executed, or words to that effect.
That is, we should presume innocence unless guilt is proven.
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To extend that logic to voting, we shouldn't use the _myth_ of
significant voter fraud to deprive innocent people of their right to
vote.
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I don't believe this controversy is a big issue in other developed
countries. It's another way the right wing manufactures imaginary
problems in America.
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Not my original idea.
It's rooted in English Common Law and neatly phrased by Benjamin
Franklin. I quoted him while noting the belief is widely, and justly,
held in USA.

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I knew it wasn't originally your idea, but it is one you've stated
several times.
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I think its parallel should apply to voting, especially in the total
absence of evidence that fraudulent votes have ever swung a national or
state election in the last 50 years.

That's a dishonest Democrat talking point... The lack of evidense is
most likely due to there being no way to go about discovering the
evidense.

--
C'est bon
Soloman