Re: fast tires

On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 12:26:58 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 6/14/2025 12:00 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:53:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 6/14/2025 9:54 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On 14 Jun 2025 13:30:03 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 21:41:37 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 6/13/2025 11:22 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 6/13/2025 11:12 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 6/13/2025 8:07 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 6/12/2025 5:37 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 6/12/2025 3:46 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 6/12/2025 3:23 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:

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Zen how are you doing after the car hit seems like riding inside.
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As well as can be expected. PT and Orthopedist said indoor trainer
is fine, but stop if I feel any pain. Cracked ribs have healed, the
shoulder sprain is slow going (In the words of the ortho
"Everything is where it should be and somehow nothing is broken,
you just crushed it). I passed the concussion protocol three days
after the hit (failed it a few hours after the hit). I have to
rehab the MCL to a certain level before they'll schedule surgery
for the ACL - Then it's another 6-9 months of rehab. They're
thinking early august time frame for the surgery....maybe. IOW I
won't be riding outside until next march at the earliest :( .

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Wow, I'd forgotten all about that. Sorry to hear it.

I don't think it's been mentioned here before, but thanks.

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I'm curious about what happened.
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A pickup truck waited until I was just in front of him to accelerate
from a stop sign. I didn't even have time to hit the brakes. Garmin
shows me at about 23 mph at the time of impact.
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https://www.strava.com/activities/14315468852

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Again, sorry to hear it. There are some crashes that are just
unavoidable, just as with driving, walking, etc. Fortunately, they are
rare. Hope you heal quickly.

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Really???   unavoidable crashes while walking?

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In the US you?re seem to be the outlier regarding pedestrians deaths, ie
other countries the trend to down.

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At any rate, those unavoidable crashes on bikes on streets and roads
are primary reason I don't ride there much any more.
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It looks to be if any even more hostile for pedestrians in the US with wide
junctions/roads and right turning traffic, and essentially missing
pavement, aka infrastructure. Vs bikes which are faster and all that.
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Hence I guess the walking and cycling rates, both usage and injuries. Which
are trending down/up in direct opposite to UK/Europe etc.
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C'est bon
Soloman
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Roger Merriman
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I've been involved in accidents while driving, and some while
bicycling, but I've never had even had a "close call" while walking.
Krygowski's comment about walking crashes" was because of his need to
rationalize Juniors accident. Truth is that walking "crashes" are most
likly to occur when the walker is walking where the law says he
shouldn't be walking.

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Which is absolutely a car centric political move, aka car companies
lobbying to have jaywalking law passed.
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That and other laws/design choices make walking a much less useable for
utility, I’ve walked to get a few groceries then sat in cafe before
returning home. All very easy, much easier than car or bike.
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I’d assume that pedestrian deaths are kinda binary ie one is fine or not.

The timid Floridian is still paranoid about bicycling, and apparently
ignorant of relevant data - or more likely, rejecting relevant data
because it doesn't jibe with his world view. ("Reality is biased against
the right wing.")

 
Some people are centent to accept the conclusions put forth by the
people who collected the data who were beholding to the people who
funded the collection. I'm not.

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Of course not. You're not content to accept any data that belies what
you believe. And what you believe comes almost exclusively from your
right wing propaganda sources.
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There are roughly 1000 bike fatalities per year in the U.S. vs. about
7000 pedestrian fatalities.

 
Of course there's many, many more pedestrians than bicyclists,
probably lots more than seven times as many.

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Does everybody note this guy's inability to process the terms "Per mile
traveled"?

A term that was not present in the statement " There are roughly 1000
bike fatalities per year in the U.S. vs. about 7000 pedestrian
fatalities," that I was responding to...

Most sources say cycling is safer per mile
traveled than pedestrian travel.

 
Safer by what standards?

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Fatalities per mile traveled. How is that difficult to understand?

My explanation of my question is below, and even though Krygowski
didn't snip it, he ignored it..  or maybe it was just over his low
brow and beyond his understanding.

Most pedestrian "accidents" happen at crosswalks in big cities, and a
high percentage of bicyclist accidents happen on city streets, too.

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Of course. The data I'm referring to regards pedestrian travel. If you
like, we can include those walking deaths that happen in and around the
home, but I'm sure you're not going to like the effect it has on your
position.

Another irrelevent strawman from Krygowski

... which, of course, would mean you would totally reject the validity
of that data.

No, it was the stupid conclusion you referred to that was invalid
because it did not take into consideration the relevent location of
the accidents. Miles traveled under different places and circumstances
is relevent, but you lumped them all together to make your point.

"Over half of the deaths occurring in the home are poisonings, totaling
77,000 deaths in 2023. The second leading cause was falls, resulting in
32,000 deaths, or about a quarter of all home deaths. No other cause
accounted for more than 3% of the home deaths."
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From
<https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/deaths-in-the-home/introduction/>
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Damn, does this guy never look up _any_ data?

Damn, Krygowski posts more irrelevent data.. As usual, he doesn't look
deep enough into the data to see the problems with the conclusions. I
suspect he simply lacks the intellectual capacity to do that.


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C'est bon
Soloman