Sujet : Re: Food Prices
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 17. Jun 2025, 22:13:48
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 16:17:28 -0400, Zen Cycle <
funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 6/17/2025 2:23 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 16:51:35 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That's all well and fine but the protestors in LA were bussed in from all over the US and they weren't paying for it.
Baloney. Officials closed some roads and off ramps in the downtown LA
area. Look at the photos of riots. Do you see any busses? All I can
find are police buses:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=la%20protests%202025%20bus&udm=2>
No, not this bus:
<https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=495355400332239>
More:
<https://southpasadenan.com/freeway-ramps-closed-amid-protests-over-immigration-raids-downtown-l-a-sheriff-announcement/>
<https://x.com/lasdhq/status/1932971546018263049>
"Potential Transit and Road Closures in Los Angeles Due to Protests"
<https://lacity.gov/highlights/potential-transit-and-road-closures-los-angeles-due-protests>
I'll bet those were the same busses tommy saw that had 100 illegal
immigrants _each_ being dropped of at polling stations.
Highly likely. I'm trying to visualize an organizer asking a bus
rental company for a rental to be used to ride to and from a protest
march. If the bus rental company is dumb enough to rent a bus, they
probably will want insurance and a rather hefty deposit for the
inevitable damage. At best, the bus will be trashed by the occupants.
At worst, some protester will set fire to the bus.
In college (San Fernando Valley State and Cal Poly Pomona), during the
Vietnam War era, I attended a few protest marches. I noticed some
people who were obviously NOT students. Maybe 10%. Most of the
damage was done by these non-students.
Somewhat later, I was working in Santa Cruz CA. A large number of
UCSC students decided to protest raising student tuition fees by
blocking traffic in a major freeway traffic interchange. Once again,
it was small groups of non-students who were doing most of the damage.
Again, most of the crowd were spectators.
<
https://www.google.com/search?q=ucsc%20protest%20raising%20tuition&udm=2>
I don't recall any bus loads of paid protesters in any of the protests
I attended. What I did notice was that most protesters knew that all
the roads would be grid locked as soon as the police arrived. So,
they arrived on bicycles, the only practical transportation available.
Note the number of bicycles in the LA protest photos:
<
https://www.google.com/search?q=la%20protests%202025%20bicycles&udm=2>
At one time, I volunteered to help with counting ballots during
elections. I'm too lazy to find the years. There were plenty of
interesting stories on how elections really work. Some other time
please.
However, I will mention that I never saw any busses unloading voters.
Part of the problem is that in Santa Cruz County, a registered voter
could in person anywhere between 1 and 29 days before election day
depending on location:
<
https://votescount.santacruzcountyca.gov/Home/Elections/November5,2024PresidentialGeneralElection/VoteCenterDropBoxLocations.aspx>
In my area, they're open 4 days. Most of the locations could
accommodate parking one bus with 57 passengers. Making multiple trips
over an 11 day period could possibly generate enough illegal votes to
swing an election without creating a huge traffic or parking mess.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.comPO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.comBen Lomond CA 95005-0272Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558