Re: RE: Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general

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Sujet : Re: RE: Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 17. Jun 2025, 22:54:50
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On 6/17/2025 12:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Jun 15 23:07:46 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
On 6/15/2025 4:25 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
So we go ride out bikes out in the middle of nowhere. I am not a FOID
carry I have not guns but my brother suggest the Bryna? I myself
probably would not be taking it on a bike but who knows.
>
My thought is I live alone and I sleep downstairs on the couch. I
sometimes keep the patio door open to let in all the cool night air. I
got thinking someone could just drop in although I leave the outside
lights one.
>
But if I had a Bryna I could just take aim and it is about 15 feet away
to disable someone.
>
It sounds like you fear a home invasion. How many have there been in
your area in, say, the past five years? What sort of neighborhood do you
live in? Are your fears actually realistic?
>
Where is this patio door? An open patio door will usually be apparent
only to someone prowling around a person's back yard, so unless you know
that lots of people walk around your back yard at night, invasion by
that route seems unlikely. And there should be ways of allowing the door
to be open enough for ventilation, but not enough to let someone burst in.
>
  From the website: "A PROVEN SELF-DEFENSE OPTION FOR A DANGEROUS WORLD"
Yep, inciting paranoia for profit! And anecdotes about customers who
don't dare go out into the world without this toy.
>
I don't think the world is scarily dangerous. I've never, ever needed
such a thing, none of my friends or extended family have ever needed it,
and I doubt you will ever need it.
 If he never needs it, what difference does it make if he carries it? Plainly you don't believe in the Constitution or the Supreme Rulings in questions of the 2nd Amendment so it is no surprise that you believe that Constitutional freedoms are for your use only.
First, I don't think this is a second amendment issue. This thing is apparently a CO2 gun that shoots a ball of pepper spray.
Second, Deacon Mark posted about the device on a _discussion_ group. That would give most people a clue that he expected us to _discuss_ it. So don't try to shut down discussion via "What difference does it make?"
My interest is generated by the ever growing paranoia in this country - the idea that our world is now so, so dangerous that everyone must carry protective devices, must live in gated communities, must be ready to do battle with home invaders, can never let kids play on their own, must wear padding and foam hats to use anything with wheels (um, except cars), must ride bikes ONLY on special surfaces which care tires can never desecrate, must sign waivers to accept the risk of burns before ordering hot coffee, etc.
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- Frank Krygowski

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15 Jun 25 * Riding a bike a protection and in general146Mark J cleary
15 Jun 25 +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general21Jeff Liebermann
15 Jun 25 i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
16 Jun 25 i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general19AMuzi
17 Jun 25 i `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general18Frank Krygowski
18 Jun 25 i  `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general17Zen Cycle
18 Jun 25 i   +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general6Catrike Ryder
19 Jun 25 i   i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general5John B.
19 Jun 25 i   i +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Frank Krygowski
19 Jun 25 i   i `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Catrike Ryder
19 Jun 25 i   i  `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2AMuzi
19 Jun 25 i   i   `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Frank Krygowski
18 Jun 25 i   `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general10AMuzi
18 Jun 25 i    +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
18 Jun 25 i    `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general8Frank Krygowski
18 Jun 25 i     +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general6AMuzi
18 Jun 25 i     i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general5Frank Krygowski
18 Jun 25 i     i `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general4Catrike Ryder
18 Jun 25 i     i  `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Frank Krygowski
18 Jun 25 i     i   +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
18 Jun 25 i     i   `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Zen Cycle
18 Jun 25 i     `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
15 Jun 25 +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general4Catrike Ryder
15 Jun 25 i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Jeff Liebermann
15 Jun 25 i +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
21 Jun 25 i `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Jeff Liebermann
16 Jun 25 +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general42Frank Krygowski
16 Jun 25 i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25 i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25 i+* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general26Shadow
18 Jun 25 ii`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general25John B.
18 Jun 25 ii `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general24Zen Cycle
18 Jun 25 ii  +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Frank Krygowski
18 Jun 25 ii  i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Zen Cycle
18 Jun 25 ii  i`- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
19 Jun 25 ii  `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general20John B.
19 Jun 25 ii   `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general19Catrike Ryder
19 Jun 25 ii    `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general18Frank Krygowski
19 Jun 25 ii     +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
20 Jun 25 ii     `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general16zen cycle
20 Jun 25 ii      +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general6AMuzi
20 Jun 25 ii      i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general5Frank Krygowski
20 Jun 25 ii      i +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Catrike Ryder
20 Jun 25 ii      i i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2AMuzi
20 Jun 25 ii      i i `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
20 Jun 25 ii      i `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1AMuzi
20 Jun 25 ii      +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general7John B.
20 Jun 25 ii      i+* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Shadow
21 Jun 25 ii      ii`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2John B.
22 Jun 25 ii      ii `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Shadow
20 Jun 25 ii      i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Zen Cycle
20 Jun 25 ii      i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Frank Krygowski
20 Jun 25 ii      i `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
20 Jun 25 ii      +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
20 Jun 25 ii      `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25 i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general13Frank Krygowski
20 Jun 25 i `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general12Frank Krygowski
20 Jun 25 i  +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
21 Jun 25 i  `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general10Jeff Liebermann
21 Jun 25 i   `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general9Frank Krygowski
21 Jun 25 i    +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Jeff Liebermann
21 Jun 25 i    i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Frank Krygowski
21 Jun 25 i    i `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Jeff Liebermann
21 Jun 25 i    +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1AMuzi
22 Jun 25 i    `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general4zen cycle
22 Jun 25 i     `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3zen cycle
22 Jun 25 i      `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Jeff Liebermann
23 Jun 25 i       `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Zen Cycle
16 Jun 25 `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general78Roger Merriman
16 Jun 25  `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general77Catrike Ryder
16 Jun 25   +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general8Roger Merriman
16 Jun 25   i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
16 Jun 25   i+* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general4AMuzi
16 Jun 25   ii+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Roger Merriman
16 Jun 25   ii`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Frank Krygowski
16 Jun 25   ii `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
16 Jun 25   i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Frank Krygowski
16 Jun 25   i `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
16 Jun 25   `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general68AMuzi
16 Jun 25    `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general67Catrike Ryder
16 Jun 25     `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general66Mark J cleary
16 Jun 25      +- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
16 Jun 25      +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general50Frank Krygowski
16 Jun 25      i+* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25      ii`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Shadow
17 Jun 25      ii `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Zen Cycle
17 Jun 25      i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general46Frank Krygowski
17 Jun 25      i `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general45Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25      i  `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general44AMuzi
17 Jun 25      i   +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25      i   i`* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general2Frank Krygowski
17 Jun 25      i   i `- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25      i   `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general40Frank Krygowski
17 Jun 25      i    `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general39Catrike Ryder
17 Jun 25      i     `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general38Frank Krygowski
17 Jun 25      i      `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general37Catrike Ryder
18 Jun 25      i       `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general36John B.
18 Jun 25      i        +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general3Frank Krygowski
18 Jun 25      i        i+- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
18 Jun 25      i        i`- Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general1Catrike Ryder
18 Jun 25      i        +* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general4Catrike Ryder
18 Jun 25      i        `* Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general28Zen Cycle
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