Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general

On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 08:30:13 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
 

On 6/17/2025 9:08 PM, John B. wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 18:12:57 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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`On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 17:42:04 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 6/17/2025 12:44 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 11:17:12 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Unlike some here, I think it's nonsense to say that nothing is
quantifiable, that _everything_ is subjective. That attitude is just a
lazy thinker's way of pretending one's uninformed opinion is always right.

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I don't buy that attitude - maybe in part because in my profession, I
was paid to (among many other things) correct other's mistakes. My
education taught me to pay attention to data, and I taught that to others.

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Sure you paid attention to the nonsense data that said that having a
gun in your house made it more likely to get shot.

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<https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/full/10.7326/M21-3762>
"Overall rates of homicide were more than twice as high among
cohabitants of handgun owners than among cohabitants of nonowners
(adjusted hazard ratio, 2.33 [95% CI, 1.78 to 3.05]). These elevated
rates were driven largely by higher rates of homicide by firearm
(adjusted hazard ratio, 2.83 [CI, 2.05 to 3.91]). Among homicides
occurring at home, cohabitants of owners had sevenfold higher rates of
being fatally shot by a spouse or intimate partner (adjusted hazard
ratio, 7.16 [CI, 4.04 to 12.69]); 84% of these victims were female."
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<https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9715182/>
"For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally
justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven
criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.
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"Conclusions: Guns kept in homes are more likely to be involved in a
fatal or nonfatal accidental shooting, criminal assault, or suicide
attempt than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense."

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<CHUCKLE> Krygowski lacks the intellectual ability to see that his
cite doesn't even address his claim that guns in the home make it more
likely you'd be shot.

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<SNICKER>
Floriduh dumbass is too deluded and lacking in intellectual ability to
comprehend:
"Conclusions: Guns kept in homes are more likely to be involved in a
fatal or nonfatal accidental shooting, criminal assault, or suicide
attempt than to be used to injure or kill in self-defense."
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let me help you out, dumbass, the cite _directly_ addresses his claim
that guns in the home make it more likely you'd be shot, and explicitly
states such. Only a floriduh dumbass could read "Guns kept in homes are
more likely to be involved in a fatal or nonfatal accidental shooting"
and "Overall rates of homicide were more than twice as high among
cohabitants of handgun owners than among cohabitants of nonowners"
and conclude "doesn't even address his claim that guns in the home make
it more likely you'd be shot."
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This is right up there with you seeing two government reports stating
the military specified the design of the AR-15, tested it, bought 80,000
of then, and designated them as standard issue, then stating "the AR-15
was a weapon the military never wanted and never used"

 And now has decided is a piece of junk and is well into the use of the
use of a "new" gun. (;-)