Sujet : Re: fast tires
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 20. Jun 2025, 09:32:39
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 19:29:12 -0500, AMuzi <
am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 6/19/2025 7:22 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/19/2025 6:21 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 18:06:58 -0500, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 6/19/2025 4:34 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 16:03:46 -0500, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 6/19/2025 3:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 15:20:34 -0500, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 6/19/2025 2:57 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 12:48:26 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 14:46:09 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 14:20:34 -0400, Radey Shouman
<shouman@comcast.net> wrote:
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> writes:
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:58:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
(...)
IOW if you turn an object loose with only its
weight acting on its mass,
it accelerates downward at one "gee."
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Count me unimpressed by Krygowski's cut and paste.
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I'm reasonably sure that was written
extemporaneously. Any engineering
professor should be able to do the same. Any
practicing engineer will
have gone through the same reasoning many times.
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I'm reasonably sure he copied out of a book.
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To impress you, must one now memorize all the
proofs and calculations?
That seems a bit excessive. Do you memorize
everything? I don't,
mostly because my memory is not as good as when I
was young.
Secondarily, because I don't like distributing
potentially wrong
proofs and calculations. If you have memorized
everything, I too
would be very impressed.
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I don't learn things by rote, I learn by knowing how
things work.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
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Both can be true, and usually are.
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Without a grounding in principle, the things you observe
(for technical problems) have no meaning.
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I have a good memory and I can recite stuff I learned
many years ago,
but analyzing that stuff to know what it means is
another thing.
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Hint: A few romantic lines from Chaucer's "Knight's
Tale" or the first
few lines from the Cantebury Tales are pretty good for
convincing a
fair young maiden to have another glass of wine. I've
had more than
one fair lady (including my wife) look at me in awe
when I expained it
was Chaucer. Of course you have to do it in old english.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
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+1
No less complex than basic physics, computer code in
various
languages or drug interactions for a pharmacist...
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I disagree. There's no complexity in that at all. It's
no different
than "roses are red, violets are blue...." It's no
different than
playing or singing music. I have no idea where and how
it's stored,
but when I lay my hands and fingers on the keyboard,
they know where
to go. Strange thing is that I can't play the keyboard
or the guitar
and sing at the same time. I've been told that both
functions use the
same little chunk of brain. That has limited my
entertainment value.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
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Memorizing physics formulae or a part in a Shakespeare play
or Indy winners in order by year or the infield fly rule or
your favorite music for keyboard or Japanese kana are all,
literally, the exact same thing; rote memory.
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No argument there.. Some aspects of computer programming
depends on
rote knowlege, too, but writing software, IOW, problem
solving,
generally requires analytical ability and what they call
meaningfull
learning.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
Yes that's true.
But Fermi couldn't advance knowledge without first
understanding basic physics.
You'll counter that John Lenin never learned music theory
and could neither read nor write musical notation all his
short life. That's also true.
But learning basic theory and principle helps immensely for
those of us who are not geniuses.
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oops Lennon sorry.
I didn't even notice the mistake, and if I had, it wouldn't have been
worth mentioning. I knew who you were referring to, and for me, that's
all that matters.
IMO, people who go around noting and correcting other people's
mistakes are one of humankind's albatrosses.
-- C'est bonSoloman