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On 6/20/2025 8:53 AM, John B. wrote:On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 06:06:07 -0400, zen cycle>
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 6/19/2025 11:25 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:All this ge-gaw ignores the fact that more then 40% of US adults liveOn 6/19/2025 4:05 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:>On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:31:23 -0400, Frank Krygowski>
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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"If a person does get a gun for "protection," they or someone in their
household becomes much more likely to get shot"
--Krygowski
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Nonsense. There are probably more people who bought a gun for
protection who have not been shot, than people who bought a gun for
protection who have been shot.
Wow.
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Can one of Mr. Tricycle Rider's allies please explain his logic mistake
to him? I'm beyond trying to help him learn to think.
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If he would have bothered to read the study, he'd know that there are in
fact more people who bought a gun for protection who have not been shot
than people who bought a gun for protection who have been shot.
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The fact that he thinks the study is bogus because more people who
bought a gun for protection who have not been shot than people who
bought a gun for protection who have been shot shows that he didn't read
the study, and if he did, he didn't understand it.
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The claim "there are more people who bought a gun for protection who
have not been shot, than people who bought a gun for protection who have
been shot" does not negate the the conclusion of the study that having a
gun in your home makes you more likely to get shot.
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It's likely that the dumbass will never be able to understand the
distinction because:
a) he reading comprehension is too weak to understand statistical analysis
2) his automatically dismisses anything not fed to him by his magatard
echo chamber.
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but as I mentioned before, trying to expose him to new concepts and use
objective rationale has little more possibility of success that trying
to convince a dog not to lick it's own ass.
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IOW - it's just the willfully ignorant dumbass being a willfully
ignorant dumbass.
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in a household where there are guns.
That's been ignored because it's not directly pertinent to the point
being discussed.
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To make it relevant, we can note that yes, the U.S. does have
world-leading gun ownership rates. And son of a gun, the U.S. has
near-world-record gun death rates!
The per-capita gun death rate of the U.S. is exceeded only by Mexico and
three or four "third world" countries that are very violent. U.S. is
_far_ worse than any country that's similarly modern and prosperous.
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So: More guns per capita, and more gun deaths per capita. Gosh, it's
almost like those facts are related!
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