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On Tue Jun 24 15:21:19 2025 AMuzi wrote:On 6/24/2025 2:46 PM, cyclintom wrote:On Mon Jun 23 16:51:19 2025 Shadow wrote:rOn Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:17:14 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Sun Jun 22 22:32:14 2025 Roger Merriman wrote:
The obligations and threats are well beyond just defensive measures, which
is why the US needs such a large military, for that role which is well
beyond just defensive.
We have two I believe and are relatively large carriers just not US sized
ones!
Who won the worls wars? Even with the US being dragged into WW II
kicking and screaming let's remember that GB, France, Australia and
Canada were not winning that war. They could hardly stay even.
Russia won world war II. If Hitler had not invaded Russia we would all
be speaking Trump.
The US was not dragged in "kicking and screaming". They initially
supported Germany, but when it became clear they'd backed the wrong
horse, they decided to send their poor in to secure their loans...
Russia didn;t win shit. Hitler had so little respect for them he put
all of his good armies on the western front. Eisenhower simply
outsmarted him, got a landing and rolled them up. The Battle of the
Bulge was merely caused by the American tanks taking a different rout.
After Paton trned and headed north Germany folded. Germany had too much
self confidence and its generals made too many mistakes because of
that. But after the success Normandy the end was inevitable. US day
time bombing raids and GB night time raids killed the industrial
capacity of Germany and Germany was alone fighting the entire world.
The German staff had about half the intelligence as any common German on the street.
You have no idea.
I'm amidst this new work, my 4th on the subject, and it's
chock full of newly recovered detail. You might enjoy it:
https://www.alibris.com/Stalingrad-Antony-Beevor/book/6300850?qsort=p&matches!1
Without Zhukov, nothing.
Andrew, Russia surviving Stalingrad turned the war into a two front
advancement. This was NOT a case of Russia winning the war but a case of
them being in position to attack Germany on a second front.There was NO
habitable area left where Stalingrad stood and the war crimes of Germany
were nothing compared to those of Russia when they turned the front
around. The Russians were understandably angry but to say that they won
WW2 is preposterous.
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