Re: How are illegals arrested

On 7/25/2025 6:49 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/24/2025 8:43 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/24/2025 6:16 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/23/2025 8:22 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/23/2025 4:23 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/22/2025 8:49 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/22/2025 4:37 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/21/2025 8:42 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/20/2025 4:02 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:

https://www.mcall.com/2025/07/18/luis-leon- allentown- grandfather- ice- guatemala/
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I feel safer already.

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Shouldn't we all? What's more of a threat to society than an 80 year old in this country legally with no criminal record?
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Yes I saw that. Then again:
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/off-duty-border-patrol- agent- shot- nyc- park/ story?id=123905115
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"the suspect, who DHS said is from the Dominican Republic, entered the country illegally in Arizona from Mexico in 2023..."
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"Mora Nunez has two prior arrests for domestic violence in New York and has an active warrant for missing a court date on one of the cases."
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"Mora Nunez is also wanted by the NYPD for a robbery in December 2024 and a felony assault stabbing in January 2025"
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Oh, there's more.
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https://5townscentral.com/2025/07/20/off-duty- federal- officer- shot- by- deported-felon-in-nyc- robbery-attempt/
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"In addition to his immigration violations, Nunez is also wanted on a kidnapping warrant in Massachusetts and has a history of felony arrests."
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Systemic failures of all sorts are regrettably common, from your instance above to a series of judges not holding this illegal career criminal with a deportation order.
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I see, so that makes the Luis Leon incident OK....got it.
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No, it does not.
As the difference between:
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https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/ local/2025/06/25/ mississippi- executes-richard- jordan- after-nearly-50- years-on- death- row/84316151007/
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and:
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https://innocenceproject.org/
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Sorry, there is no analogy there.

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There is.
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Most* citizens favor execution of vicious murderers but we are horrified by conviction of innocents.
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Removing illegals, as the Statutes require, is right and necessary and the laws are old, well analyzed through significant case law over many years.
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Deporting citizens is illegal wrong and deplorable.

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OK, I see what you meant now.
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As in all human activity, there will be errors. A competent administration corrects them.

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Given that the current administration refuses to correct them, that tells us something.
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*not all

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I don't know that and You probably don't either.

 Yes, we do.
 

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There's no clear indication so far,

 yes, there is.
 

fabrications notwithstanding:
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https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/07/21/dhs-sets-record- straight-ice-never- deported-medias-allentown-grandfather
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https://thedailybeat.org/false-claim-exposed-ice-did-not- deport- american-toddler/
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https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-viral-ice-deportation- claims-debunked/ a-73201853
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 Sure, but that isn't the case of somone picked up by accident or counter to the laws of the US.
 These cases are of people intentionally picked up by ICE, in the country legally, and having committed no crimes:
 https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5217595- international-students-faculty-trump-immigration-crackdown- ice-tufts-student-detained-columbia-alabama/
 And the trump administration is recalcitrant at best.
 

Utterly different.
We wholly and wholeheartedly agree that US citizens ought not to be deported in error. If and when that happens, as with other errors (as documented well by The Innocence Project), we ought to vigorously demand correction as promptly as possible.
Temporary visa holders, such as foreign student you linked, are here at the pleasure of the Secretary of State and may be removed, at his discretion, at any time.  That's the (very old, much litigated to clarity) Statute.
You can read it yourself:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/22/42.82
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