Re: How are illegals arrested

On 7/25/2025 7:14 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 07:49:07 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

On 7/24/2025 8:43 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/24/2025 6:16 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/23/2025 8:22 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/23/2025 4:23 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/22/2025 8:49 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/22/2025 4:37 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 7/21/2025 8:42 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/20/2025 4:02 PM, Beej Jorgensen wrote:

https://www.mcall.com/2025/07/18/luis-leon-allentown-
grandfather- ice- guatemala/
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I feel safer already.

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Shouldn't we all? What's more of a threat to society than an 80
year old in this country legally with no criminal record?
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Yes I saw that. Then again:
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/off-duty-border-patrol- agent- shot-
nyc- park/ story?id=123905115
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"the suspect, who DHS said is from the Dominican Republic,
entered the country illegally in Arizona from Mexico in 2023..."
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"Mora Nunez has two prior arrests for domestic violence in New
York and has an active warrant for missing a court date on one of
the cases."
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"Mora Nunez is also wanted by the NYPD for a robbery in December
2024 and a felony assault stabbing in January 2025"
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Oh, there's more.
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https://5townscentral.com/2025/07/20/off-duty-federal- officer-
shot- by- deported-felon-in-nyc-robbery-attempt/
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"In addition to his immigration violations, Nunez is also wanted
on a kidnapping warrant in Massachusetts and has a history of
felony arrests."
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Systemic failures of all sorts are regrettably common, from your
instance above to a series of judges not holding this illegal
career criminal with a deportation order.
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I see, so that makes the Luis Leon incident OK....got it.
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No, it does not.
As the difference between:
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https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/ local/2025/06/25/
mississippi- executes-richard-jordan- after-nearly-50- years-on-
death- row/84316151007/
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and:
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https://innocenceproject.org/
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Sorry, there is no analogy there.

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There is.
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Most* citizens favor execution of vicious murderers but we are
horrified by conviction of innocents.
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Removing illegals, as the Statutes require, is right and necessary
and the laws are old, well analyzed through significant case law over
many years.
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Deporting citizens is illegal wrong and deplorable.

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OK, I see what you meant now.
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As in all human activity, there will be errors. A competent
administration corrects them.

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Given that the current administration refuses to correct them, that
tells us something.
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*not all

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I don't know that and You probably don't either.

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Yes, we do.
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There's no clear indication so far,

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yes, there is.
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fabrications notwithstanding:
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https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/07/21/dhs-sets-record-straight-ice-never-
deported-medias-allentown-grandfather
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https://thedailybeat.org/false-claim-exposed-ice-did-not-deport-
american-toddler/
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https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-viral-ice-deportation-claims-debunked/
a-73201853
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Sure, but that isn't the case of somone picked up by accident or counter
to the laws of the US.
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These cases are of people intentionally picked up by ICE, in the country
legally, and having committed no crimes:
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https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5217595-international-students-faculty-trump-immigration-crackdown-ice-tufts-student-detained-columbia-alabama/
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And the trump administration is recalcitrant at best.
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 You'd think that non-citizens who have been allowed in the country
with a visa would know enough not to make trouble. Green card holders
do not have the same rights as citizns.
--
C'est bon
Soloman

With extensive experience in the area, Resident Aliens have significant process rights, among other rights.  Except for voting, nearly the same as citizens.  RAs must register with SSS and are draftable, can't serve on juries, bear the same tax burdens as you.
https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/permanent-resident-vs-citizen-difference.html
Visa holders have little if any, and may be removed at any time at the discretion of the Secretary of State.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/22/42.82
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971