Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock

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Sujet : Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock
De : peter (at) *nospam* tsto.co.uk (Peter Fairbrother)
Groupes : rec.crafts.metalworking
Date : 24. Mar 2024, 20:27:34
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On 24/03/2024 08:29, Richard Smith wrote:
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Thanks for detcord idea.
You couldn't drill deeply at 1/2inch (clearance at 14mm)...
At the 32mm of traditional Cornish drilling, could get 2m to 3m (?) - (I
managed 1.5m in a few minutes).
 Ah - I see - way to cheaply practice - do it in miniature - make little
cubby-holes for storing tools in in the side of passageways, etc.
PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON ROCK BLASTING
I was thinking more like, for a person width and height tunnel, say 3x9 shots at 8" spacing, with 50cm deep holes with 40cm of 100g/m high loading detcord and 10cm stemming, connected by some low loading detcord.
Or possibly better, 15cm hldc, 10cm stemming, 15cm hldc, 10cm stemming, with a low loading detcord going past both hldc charges. Or even 8-8-8-8-8-10, if you can bear to do that.
Either no delays and only one detonator, or say divide it into four sections and use maybe three delay detonators.
That kind of cautious blasting, if it would work on the rock (it should be about right, but no guarantees), should not make too big a disturbance with aboveground at 20m. It might even be unnoticeable, even though it's a kilo of PETN.
For a hobby program.
As the tunnel isn't going to be very long - how long? one, a few, ten meters? - it shouldn't take too many shots.
Not that cheaply though; but a 50m roll of high loading detcord will get you maybe 5 to 8 shots. The low loading detcord will probably come in a much longer roll, and cost a little less.
Say £100 per shot, or a little more at 60cm of tunnel per shot.
PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON ROCK BLASTING

My instinct says one problem - with 14mm drill at longer lengths you can
get, could not get water to flow down flutes to where cutting happening.
Turn drillings into a harmless slurry, but also keep the drilling-tip
cool doing a lot of work in this hard granite.
You will be knowing - the drill-bits used in the likes of the Cornish
Holman rock-drill and the American Gardner rock-drill (?) have a hole
down the middle for the continuous supply of water which the rock-drill
supplies.
I didn't know that, specifically, though I do use through-fluid cooled drill bits from time to time. I don't know much about mining.
But I was only thinking of half a meter deep. That will still give you some rock to cart away between shots.
And if you can drill some larger diameter unfilled holes as well, so much the better. If the rock is only a few meters thick, you might drill through on the first try with a larger longer drill.
Peter Fairbrother

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Mar 24 * Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock34Peter Fairbrother
24 Mar 24 `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock33Richard Smith
24 Mar 24  +* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock2Jim Wilkins
25 Mar 24  i`- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Richard Smith
24 Mar 24  +* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock2Peter Fairbrother
25 Mar 24  i`- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Richard Smith
24 Mar 24  `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock28Jim Wilkins
24 Mar 24   +* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock12Snag
25 Mar 24   i+* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock10Bob La Londe
25 Mar 24   ii`* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock9Snag
25 Mar 24   ii `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock8Snag
25 Mar 24   ii  +* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock2Richard Smith
25 Mar 24   ii  i`- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Bob La Londe
25 Mar 24   ii  `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock5Leon Fisk
25 Mar 24   ii   `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock4Snag
25 Mar 24   ii    `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock3Bob La Londe
26 Mar 24   ii     `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock2Snag
27 Mar 24   ii      `- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Richard Smith
25 Mar 24   i`- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Richard Smith
25 Mar 24   `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock15Richard Smith
25 Mar 24    `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock14Bob La Londe
25 Mar 24     +- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Snag
26 Mar 24     `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock12Peter Fairbrother
27 Mar 24      `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock11Richard Smith
27 Mar 24       +- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Jim Wilkins
28 Mar 24       `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock9Peter Fairbrother
28 Mar 24        +* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock6Jim Wilkins
28 Mar 24        i`* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock5Richard Smith
29 Mar 24        i `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock4Jim Wilkins
29 Mar 24        i  `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock3Richard Smith
29 Mar 24        i   +- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1Jim Wilkins
29 Mar 24        i   `- N-Power Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1pyotr filipivich
28 Mar 24        `* Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock2Richard Smith
28 Mar 24         `- Re: blasting smallish tunnels in hard rock1David Billington

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