Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on

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Sujet : Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on
De : muratlanne (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Jim Wilkins)
Groupes : rec.crafts.metalworking
Date : 07. Dec 2024, 15:10:15
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"Richard Smith"  wrote in message news:m1a5d7bsh1.fsf@void.com...
I have contributed - this has started to happen.  I used "the bubble"
(spirit-level) on some fabrications, and found that what it cost in time
to set things off parallel at the first stage was more than made-up for
by the "ideal" time it took to fit-up and weld the rest.
Show the approach and the corrections, the owner and designer where on
the press-brake with dial-gauges, etc., and made adjustments.
ie. there is something positive going on. ...
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Could you expand on that?
I found out the hard way how much welds can distort a precise alignment, especially a weld across an inside corner. I had to jack the sawmill ladder frame parallel (enough) and mill the shrunken gap in a bending brake hinge assembled from surface-ground plates. The surface welds along the sides of the plate stack didn't destroy the 0.005" fork/tongue clearance, but welding inside the fork did.
Do diagonal or fish mouth/tail ends (vs square) improve stress distribution and/or reduce distortion in butt joint splice plate welds? One end of the splice plate would be bolted, the other welded after aligning the beams.
When I was building custom machinery the press brake operator and welder compensated for distortion, the all-welded machine frames were square to 1/32". They were mostly multiple 19" relay racks that we had to fit the equipment panels into, so we would see any error. I knew they marked the prints with allowances for bending and welding but they didn't share, and the front surface welds had been ground and filled as invisible as auto body repairs.
tia, jsw

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Oct 24 * FWIW first welding job, 2 years on28Richard Smith
14 Oct 24 +* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on7Jim Wilkins
15 Oct 24 i`* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on6Richard Smith
15 Oct 24 i +- Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on1Richard Smith
15 Oct 24 i `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on4Jim Wilkins
15 Oct 24 i  +* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on2Snag
16 Oct 24 i  i`- Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on1Jim Wilkins
16 Oct 24 i  `- Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on1Richard Smith
14 Oct 24 `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on20Jim Wilkins
15 Oct 24  `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on19Richard Smith
16 Oct 24   +- Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on1Richard Smith
4 Nov 24   +- Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on1Richard Smith
7 Dec 24   `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on16Richard Smith
7 Dec 24    `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on15Jim Wilkins
11 Dec 24     `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on14Richard Smith
11 Dec 24      `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on13Jim Wilkins
11 Dec 24       `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on12Richard Smith
11 Dec 24        `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on11Jim Wilkins
12 Dec 24         `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on10Richard Smith
13 Dec 24          `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on9Jim Wilkins
13 Dec 24           `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on8Jim Wilkins
16 Dec 24            `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on7Jim Wilkins
20 Dec21:17             `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on6Richard Smith
21 Dec00:07              +* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on3Jim Wilkins
21 Dec08:47              i`* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on2Richard Smith
21 Dec12:46              i `- Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on1Jim Wilkins
21 Dec19:52              `* Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on2Bob La Londe
22 Dec00:37               `- Re: FWIW first welding job, 2 years on1Jim Wilkins

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