Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday

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Sujet : Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday
De : none (at) *nospam* none.com99 (Bob La Londe)
Groupes : rec.crafts.metalworking
Date : 22. Jun 2024, 18:35:50
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On 6/21/2024 6:13 PM, Snag wrote:
On 6/21/2024 2:03 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 6/21/2024 11:57 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:v54fn9$39fft$1@dont-email.me...
On 6/20/2024 5:07 AM, Snag wrote:
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   Just looking at it , The barrel being octagon I can put it in my mill vise with some padding . Using a wrench on the barrel is almost certainly going to damage the finish . A nice sized chunk of hickory with a couple of notches to engage the frame top and bottom straps might be stout enough to rotate the frame - or maybe not .
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A mill vise will probably work, but I never have one mounted anywhere
other than a mill table.  I like the bench vise (very heavy steel bench)
for this sort of work because I have it on the corner where I can work
all the way around a part.
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Someday when I have a layout and assembly table that doesn't suffer from
HSD (Horizontal Surface Disease) I may mount both a bench vise and a
mill vise on the table for different things.  A mill vise is better for
things like a hydraulic tapping arm if I ever decide I need one.
Bob La Londe
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Somewhere I saw a suggestion of a pipe vise bolted to a heavy timber for unscrewing things that required a lot of torque and custom machined jaw inserts.
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A pipe vise is awesome for holding, but he wants to create zero cosmetic damage.  Pipe jaws in a bench vise, or the chain style pipe vise will both dig in.  I'm not even sure I'd risk prismatic aluminum soft jaws for the zero chance of cosmetic damage he is going for.  I'd go straight to the leather surfaced plywood vise jaw liners.
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    If I'm going with plywood/leather jaws I might as well use the regular vise . It's bolted to a stool but easily held down with a foot bracing on a rung of the stool . Mill vise is currently under the mill table . I've got an Arctic Cat 600 vertical twin cylinder block on the mill . We're boring out the cylinders for new sleeves , he's making it into a 660 ... and putting a belt drive blower on it . Gonna be wild .
It might work.  If kid you tightened it down the first time adult you might be able to tighten it a little more.  BUT:  I think putting your foot on a vise stand is a bit optimistic.  I'm fairly heavy, but I don't think I could get enough leverage against myself that way to make a significant movement.  I could be wrong of course, but when I need to move something I use the vise that's mounted to the 9 foot heavy steel (1/4" top and c channel frame and legs) work bench.  Not the one that's bolted to the heavy butcher block top bench.
Its funny.  That vise belonged to my friend John Apple, and before that to his dad Lewis Apple (RIP).  John called me up one day and said I could have the vise because he was moving to Tennessee, and he didn't want to haul it.  When he got there he said I could have the vise, but I had to take the bench and everything under it too.  I still have boxes out back of the shop getting water and sun damaged I haven't finished sorting through.
P.S.  Lewis was the one who came up with the plywood jaws for that vise, and John was the one that showed them to me.  I figured out the addition of leather with contact cement (3M77) myself for more "delicate" parts. I usually used whatever I had handy, not always plywood, to make those wood jaws.  Right now I think I have MDF jaws laying next to the vise. I consider them consumable.  Lewis was a retired fire fighter (medical), cabinet builder, and fine furniture restorer.  I hesitate to think the small fortune in wood that went to the dumpster or somebody's fireplace when he moved out of his compound and gave up his big shop.  He sold it at the peak of the real estate bubble in 2004 so he did okay.
P.P.S.  I just ordered a fresh piece of leather from Tandy to make some new leather jaws, and a couple strops (3 micron and 1 micron diamond).
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Bob La Londe
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Jun 24 * I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday27Bob La Londe
18 Jun 24 +* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday25Jim Wilkins
18 Jun 24 i+* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday2Snag
18 Jun 24 ii`- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Bob La Londe
18 Jun 24 i+- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Bob La Londe
18 Jun 24 i`* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday21Bob La Londe
18 Jun 24 i +- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Bob La Londe
18 Jun 24 i `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday19Snag
19 Jun 24 i  `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday18Bob La Londe
19 Jun 24 i   +- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Jim Wilkins
19 Jun 24 i   `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday16Snag
19 Jun 24 i    `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday15Bob La Londe
20 Jun 24 i     `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday14Snag
20 Jun 24 i      +- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Jim Wilkins
20 Jun 24 i      `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday12Bob La Londe
20 Jun 24 i       `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday11Snag
20 Jun 24 i        +* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday2Bob La Londe
20 Jun 24 i        i`- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Snag
20 Jun 24 i        `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday8Jim Wilkins
20 Jun 24 i         `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday7Snag
21 Jun 24 i          `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday6Bob La Londe
21 Jun 24 i           `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday5Jim Wilkins
21 Jun 24 i            `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday4Bob La Londe
21 Jun 24 i             +- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Jim Wilkins
22 Jun 24 i             `* Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday2Snag
22 Jun 24 i              `- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Bob La Londe
18 Jun 24 `- Re: I "SNAG"ed A Couple Tool Boxes Yesterday1Snag

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