Re: Outdoor Welding

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Sujet : Re: Outdoor Welding
De : muratlanne (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Jim Wilkins)
Groupes : rec.crafts.metalworking
Date : 26. Jun 2025, 13:41:55
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"Clare Snyder"  wrote in message news:6pgp5kdc7vpmqd19gtehhfsk77rrsh4obl@4ax.com...

 Bolts?? I don't need no F'n bolts. Bolts are for guys who don't know
what they are doing and will need to replace/repair parts!!!
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I didn't need bolts either once past the prototype stage, spotwelding may be faster and cheaper. On a new project I almost never knew what I was doing until I studied the problem and built enough to experiment. That's the nature of R&D. Design for manufacture follows after confirming that the prototype works well. Often design engineers "throw it over the wall" to production engineers instead of collaborating. That's why I learned machining processes and limitations.
https://www.businessballs.com/amusement-stress-relief/tree-swing-cartoon-pictures-early-versions/
Custom production test stations for automotive electronic modules were usually one-offs or small batches and had to keep up with evolving customer requirements as they found issues with their own prototypes, so I had to make the first and only attempt look professional, meaning neatly painted and labeled and easily rewired. All electronic and mechanical components had to be bolted or screwed into tapped holes in the painted frame, and sometimes moved for late changes. That was just before PLCs and DIN rail made the task easier.
In the mid 1970's there were no experienced automotive electronic engineers, they were all new hires learning practical matters they hadn't in school by trying to keep up with changing government safety, emissions and fuel economy regulations that sometimes conflicted. 5 MPH bumpers added weight, the best economy setting turned air into nitric acid pollutant. The intake air flow and exhaust oxygen sensors were from chemical instruments I was familiar with.
https://thedetroitbureau.com/2009/11/the-great-safety-belt-interlock-fiasco/
That's typical of when the government's failed trial lawyers meddle with science or engineering. Yet they scream of injustice when industry lobbyists fight back. Mitre and other quasi-private .orgs attempted to isolate us from their amateur technical bumbling while trying to solve public problems involving GPS and air traffic control etc.
A group of auto execs flew into Boston and drove over an hour to central NH with a warning buzzer blaring because they didn't know how to silence it. When they arrived we earned confidence (future orders) by unplugging the buzzer and disconnecting the load switches under the seats. They were contracting time-critical projects to a very small company in a state not widely known to be so high tech.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Jun 25 * Outdoor Welding59Bob La Londe
16 Jun 25 +* Re: Outdoor Welding5Jim Wilkins
16 Jun 25 i`* Re: Outdoor Welding4Bob La Londe
16 Jun 25 i `* Re: Outdoor Welding3Jim Wilkins
16 Jun 25 i  `* Re: Outdoor Welding2Bob La Londe
16 Jun 25 i   `- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
23 Jun 25 `* Re: Outdoor Welding53Bob La Londe
23 Jun 25  `* Re: Outdoor Welding52Jim Wilkins
24 Jun 25   `* Re: Outdoor Welding51Bob La Londe
24 Jun 25    +* Re: Outdoor Welding8Jim Wilkins
25 Jun 25    i`* Re: Outdoor Welding7Bob La Londe
25 Jun 25    i `* Re: Outdoor Welding6Bob La Londe
25 Jun 25    i  `* Re: Outdoor Welding5Jim Wilkins
26 Jun 25    i   `* Re: Outdoor Welding4Bob La Londe
26 Jun 25    i    +- Re: Outdoor Welding1Snag
26 Jun 25    i    `* Re: Outdoor Welding2Jim Wilkins
26 Jun 25    i     `- Re: Outdoor Welding1Bob La Londe
26 Jun 25    `* Re: Outdoor Welding42Clare Snyder
26 Jun 25     `* Re: Outdoor Welding41Jim Wilkins
26 Jun 25      `* Re: Outdoor Welding40Jim Wilkins
27 Jun 25       `* Re: Outdoor Welding39Bob La Londe
27 Jun 25        +* Re: Outdoor Welding34Jim Wilkins
27 Jun 25        i`* Re: Outdoor Welding33Bob La Londe
27 Jun 25        i `* Re: Outdoor Welding32Jim Wilkins
28 Jun 25        i  `* Re: Outdoor Welding31Bob La Londe
28 Jun 25        i   `* Re: Outdoor Welding30Jim Wilkins
28 Jun 25        i    `* Re: Outdoor Welding29Bob La Londe
28 Jun 25        i     +* Re: Outdoor Welding2Snag
29 Jun 25        i     i`- Re: Outdoor Welding1Bob La Londe
28 Jun 25        i     +* Re: Outdoor Welding21Jim Wilkins
29 Jun 25        i     i`* Re: Outdoor Welding20Bob La Londe
29 Jun 25        i     i +* Re: Outdoor Welding2Snag
29 Jun 25        i     i i`- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
29 Jun 25        i     i +- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
30 Jun 25        i     i `* Re: Outdoor Welding16Jim Wilkins
30 Jun 25        i     i  `* Re: Outdoor Welding15Bob La Londe
30 Jun 25        i     i   `* Re: Outdoor Welding14Jim Wilkins
30 Jun 25        i     i    `* Re: Outdoor Welding13Bob La Londe
30 Jun 25        i     i     +- Re: Outdoor Welding1Bob La Londe
1 Jul 25        i     i     +* Re: Outdoor Welding10Jim Wilkins
1 Jul 25        i     i     i`* Re: Outdoor Welding9Bob La Londe
1 Jul 25        i     i     i `* Re: Outdoor Welding8Jim Wilkins
1 Jul 25        i     i     i  +* Re: Outdoor Welding3Jim Wilkins
1 Jul 25        i     i     i  i`* Re: Outdoor Welding2Bob La Londe
1 Jul 25        i     i     i  i `- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
1 Jul 25        i     i     i  `* Re: Outdoor Welding4Bob La Londe
1 Jul 25        i     i     i   `* Re: Outdoor Welding3Clare Snyder
2 Jul 25        i     i     i    +- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
2 Jul 25        i     i     i    `- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
1 Jul 25        i     i     `- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
28 Jun 25        i     `* Re: Outdoor Welding5Jim Wilkins
2 Jul 25        i      `* Re: Outdoor Welding4Richard Smith
2 Jul14:09        i       +* Re: Outdoor Welding2Jim Wilkins
3 Jul14:38        i       i`- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
4 Jul00:38        i       `- Re: Outdoor Welding1Jim Wilkins
27 Jun 25        `* Re: Outdoor Welding4Jim Wilkins
27 Jun 25         `* Re: Outdoor Welding3Bob La Londe
27 Jun 25          `* Re: Outdoor Welding2Jim Wilkins
27 Jun 25           `- Re: Outdoor Welding1Bob La Londe

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