Re: It's Early, But Will You Have for Dinner Tonight, Thursday, 11/14/2024?

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:

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On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
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On Fri, 22 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
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This is the truth! And you'd support american industry as well
instead of chinese solar manufacturers.

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You might want to look into it,  USA/Canada makes our own solar
panels that rate longer, with higher hail and wind protection
than that weak Chinese stuff.  They also pull more power per
panel.
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That's what we got here.Just got one of my rare bills, 31$ for
last month.  I went solar just before I retired in 2022.  I
also got 39$ in SRECs back so I'm ahead.  I end up paying for
2% of my electricity over a year when SRECs are deducted. (I
produce at 92.5% averaged since install in 2022.  I have some
spots sloped for it or I'd be producing excess).
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I don't know really what SRECs are but it's some sort credit and
areas vary on how much they are going for.  As far as I know,
I'm the only RFC regular with solar.
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This is very interesting. How much is the price difference and are
they manufactured in the US? If the price is lower, I think europe
will gladly buy the majority of the production in order to
decrease reliance on the hostile state of china.

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It was about 10% more then but they rated 10 more years longevity.
ALL parts are either USA or Canada produced.  It's a mixed product
and a good one.  I don't have a list of which parts are which
country.
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(Typo above, I have some spots NOT sloped for it..)  IE:  I'm 4
panels short of 100% plus some for a level 2 EV charger.

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Very interesting! If I ever manage to find the right plot for my
fortress of solitude, I'll definitely try and remember this, over
crappy chinese solar panels!
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I also saw somewhere, small 2-3 meter high, vertical wind turbines, I
wonder if those are good enough to act as a nice complement in the
winter when solar drops to about 10% of its maximum power?
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But if neither works out, there's always the option of a wood/pellets
burner, although not as "techy" and elegant as a solar+wind solution.

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Well it's not that extreme of a shift here.  To me, you practically
seem to live in the Arctic (I know that's an exaguration);.  Here
lowest sun is when it's just comming up at 7am and down by 5pm.
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The tech is rapidly evolving and they are working on roof shingle
setups that will be much cheaper they say, and can be repaired by
anyone able to climb a ladder.  Just give it time.
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On mini-wind types, yes they exist as well as ground mounted solar.  I
have no direct experience with those.
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I've now gotten 2 batteries I charge from solar.  I plan to add more.
I also plan an oxygen concentrator with batteries (for Don, just in
case).
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This goes along with my own style of having backup plans for outages.
It's just going in stages.  The big stage is a Kohlar (sp?) generator
in the back of the house that runs off natural gas and will cover
essential needs.  About 4K will cover us with a portable AC unit and
critical outlets for things.
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Where I live solar is completely unfeasible (at a reasonable cost) 3.5 months of the year. There is light, but the light is so weak that you get about 5%-10% of full capacity. Sun rises at around 8 or 9 and goes down at 15-16.
So what you would need is energy storage capacity that will last 3-4 months, and last time I did the calculation based on H-storage systems I think it came out at 400k USD.
_Do_ note the relentless forward march of technology though! 5-6 years ago, when I did the calculation, the cost was around 900k USD, so extrapolating that cost decrease would bring down energy storage cost to realistic levels in only 10-15 years! Add to that, increasing efficiency of the solar, and it might be feasible.
Then there are of course other storage technologies such as basalt batteries, but I have not looked deeply into it.
https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2020/03/08/cesar-seasonal-energy-storage-in-basalt/ .