Re: PING! Michael

On 11/24/2024 3:24 PM, dsi1 wrote:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 21:27:32 +0000, D wrote:
 

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On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
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D wrote:
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My Solar panels are SILFAB.  A joint project between USA and Canada.
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https://www.allamericanmade.com/solar-panels-made-in-usa/
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I list that because a lot of people say 'solar is all Chinese crap'.
No it isn't and hasn't been for a long time.  Computer chips for
cars may be a problem but we have the gear still to make them and
the experience.
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What about the solar supply chains and raw materials? Are those also
under US control?

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We are talking production of materials to something needed.  Twist if
you want but that isn't normally considered when a country brands an
item as 'made in (insert country)' and you know it.
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I'm thinking about the security of the supply chain, and that we must
make
sure as little money as possible ends up in china. It has nothing to do
with twisting and everything to do with building a prosperous and rich
USA
and a weak and imploding china! =)

 The reality is that most Americans aren't interested in manufacturing
jobs. They aren't really interested in doing most jobs unless they are
well paid. That's where the immigrants come in.
 I don't know how things are in your country but this country has always
relied on immigrants for cheap labor most of us wouldn't touch. That
would be like building America's railroad or working in Hawaiian
plantations.
 We don't need the Chinese to lay the railroad tracks or work our fields
but immigrants are still an important part of the American economy. They
do the jobs we don't want. They pay payroll taxes and sales tax. They
try to avoid contact with the services available to most American tax
payers. They try to remain invisible.
 America will never be prosperous and rich while exploiting the poor and
powerless. Today, it's the immigrants, tomorrow it will be the poor and
elderly Americans, and our educational system. You can take that to the
bank.

+1
Let's just be real, we're slavers by corporate proxy - every one of those Venezuelans we free debit-carded up here is in no position to ever have a reasonable share of the American "dream".
They'll live stacked like cord wood in aging motel apartments, work until their bodies fail them, then become casualties of corporate greed and exploitation.
The children they have will benefit from an education but likely end up in our military as few other options await them coming out of our public screwls.
Literally the most humane thing we can do for all of us is embrace robotized labor and start evening the economic playing field to the point it comprises a workingman's safety net.
Sounds vaguely socialistic, but it need not be.
We just need to incentivize meaningful life skills and quit tax-breaking breeding incentives.
If we mostly wink out due to under-population so much more the opportunity for those left.
That includes the animal kingdom, which is self-regulating in ways that we find distasteful.