Re: The hamburger

On 2024-11-14 1:20 p.m., S Viemeister wrote:

On 14/11/2024 19:47, Michael Trew wrote:

On 11/13/2024 1:07 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

On 2024-11-13 12:28 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:

On 11/13/2024 6:30 AM, BryanGSimmons wrote:

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Most American pie crusts, and American baked goods in general are crap because they are full of crappy ingredients.

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I've adapted grandma's pie crust recipe to use frozen butter instead of Crisco.  I've never met a decent (grocery) store bought pastry, ick.

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Good for you. I have never used one but I have had "home made" pies that were made with them.  They are, IMO, inferior to real home made pie dough. The worse home made pie crust is probably better than the best store bought. However, we have to accept the sad fact that some people really struggle with dough making and rolling.  It is not just a matter of convenience because they just can't do it.  I consider myself lucky to have learned how to make it and that I find it easy.

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Luckily I got the hang of it fairly easily.  I found that cold butter is a much better texture than Crisco.  I've never tried lard, that will be a project for some day.

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Try half lard, half butter.

 Which is what I use, with pastry flour, not AP. I have never used Crisco.