Re: PING! Michael

On 11/24/2024 6:27 PM, dsi1 wrote:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 22:46:08 +0000, clams casino wrote:
 

On 11/24/2024 3:24 PM, dsi1 wrote:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 21:27:32 +0000, D wrote:
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On Sun, 24 Nov 2024, Carol wrote:
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D wrote:
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My Solar panels are SILFAB.  A joint project between USA and Canada.
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https://www.allamericanmade.com/solar-panels-made-in-usa/
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I list that because a lot of people say 'solar is all Chinese crap'.
No it isn't and hasn't been for a long time.  Computer chips for
cars may be a problem but we have the gear still to make them and
the experience.
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What about the solar supply chains and raw materials? Are those also
under US control?

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We are talking production of materials to something needed.  Twist if
you want but that isn't normally considered when a country brands an
item as 'made in (insert country)' and you know it.
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I'm thinking about the security of the supply chain, and that we must
make
sure as little money as possible ends up in china. It has nothing to do
with twisting and everything to do with building a prosperous and rich
USA
and a weak and imploding china! =)

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The reality is that most Americans aren't interested in manufacturing
jobs. They aren't really interested in doing most jobs unless they are
well paid. That's where the immigrants come in.
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I don't know how things are in your country but this country has always
relied on immigrants for cheap labor most of us wouldn't touch. That
would be like building America's railroad or working in Hawaiian
plantations.
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We don't need the Chinese to lay the railroad tracks or work our fields
but immigrants are still an important part of the American economy. They
do the jobs we don't want. They pay payroll taxes and sales tax. They
try to avoid contact with the services available to most American tax
payers. They try to remain invisible.
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America will never be prosperous and rich while exploiting the poor and
powerless. Today, it's the immigrants, tomorrow it will be the poor and
elderly Americans, and our educational system. You can take that to the
bank.

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Let's just be real, we're slavers by corporate proxy - every one of
those Venezuelans we free debit-carded up here is in no position to ever
have a reasonable share of the American "dream".
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They'll live stacked like cord wood in aging motel apartments, work
until their bodies fail them, then become casualties of corporate greed
and exploitation.
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The children they have will benefit from an education but likely end up
in our military as few other options await them coming out of our public
screwls.
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Literally the most humane thing we can do for all of us is embrace
robotized labor and start evening the economic playing field to the
point it comprises a workingman's safety net.
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Sounds vaguely socialistic, but it need not be.
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We just need to incentivize meaningful life skills and quit tax-breaking
breeding incentives.
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If we mostly wink out due to under-population so much more the
opportunity for those left.
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That includes the animal kingdom, which is self-regulating in ways that
we find distasteful.

 My brother used to spend his summer working for Dole on Lanai picking
pineapples. I guess a lot of kids did that. They got housing and fed and
God knows what the hell they did during their off times. He seemed to
enjoy it.

That's far a better deal than your ancestors got anyways...

These days, Lanai is owned by a rich tech dude. I was doing some work on
the island some years ago. There's not many people there. The rich guy
built a couple of resorts there. I saw some pictures of it - quite
strange! The resorts were empty. I got a chance to talk with some of the
locals. They're just glad that somebody dumped some money on their laps.

Ellison is likely a pedo like the rest of them, just so you know...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/larry-ellison-goes-ape-on-fortune-reporter/
"From: Larry Ellison
Subject: Hey Jerk
Date: August 11, 2010 1:00:55 PM EDT
To: PHILIP ELMER-DEWITT
Adelyn Lee went to jail for a year for falsely accusing me of sexual harassment. Why did you leave that out of your story you scum bag? Let me guess...your job is telling half-truths. Fortune Magazine must be very proud of you."
https://qz.com/deutsche-bank-jeffrey-epstein-settlement-jpmorgan-1850448802
As prosecutors investigate the bank’s ties to Epstien, they’re subpoenaing high-net-worth individuals like Tesla chief Elon Musk and Oracle’s Larry Ellison—clients who may have been referred by Epstein—to share communications.

I can see the island as a playground of the rich and famous, You could
fly there and nobody would know. The locals won't hassle you because
they're not into celebrity doings. It's kind of like the perfect set-up
if you're a famous guy and just want to vacation in peace.

Same as Branson and his Caribbean swingers' paradise islands...
Shit is WAY wrong on this planet.
https://nypost.com/2024/02/05/business/elon-musk-invited-by-larry-ellison-to-hawaii-to-dry-out-from-drugs/
Elon Musk’s alleged drug use led Larry Ellison to invite the fellow billionaire to dry out at the Oracle co-founder’s Hawaii estate, according to a report.
Ellison, a Tesla board member, reached out to the Tesla boss in the winter of 2022 as concerns grew from others on the board about Musk’s behavior, the Wall Street Journal reported over the weekend.
Musk, whose portfolio of companies includes SpaceX and the social media platform X, has acknowledged using ketamine to treat depression.
But he also has reportedly popped recreational drugs such as LSD and ecstasy with members of Tesla’s board, including venture capitalists Steve Jurvetson and Antonio Gracias.
Ellison, who owns most of the Hawaiian island of Lana’i, has hosted his “very close friend” Musk on numerous occasions, the Journal reported.
At around the time that Ellison extended his invite to Musk, he attended a party in Hollywood Hills where he consumed a liquid form of ecstasy from a water bottle, according to the Journal.
Before Musk took the drug, his personal bodyguards allegedly asked people to leave the floor of the house for privacy.
...so where are the "good guys"in these parts...you see any???