Sujet : Re: Who Was Crucified Next to Jesus?
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On 29 May 2025, Dawn Flood <
Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> posted some
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On 5/27/25 6:50 PM, Beasley Brattford wrote:
On 27 May 2025, Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> posted some
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On 5/27/2025 2:25 PM, P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestasâ€"to complain or to
moan in Greekâ€"and on the right, Dismasâ€"the Greek word for
"death" or "sunset." The Gospel of Luke names them thieves or
robbers, and the apocryphal Book of Nicodemus gives us their names.
"Saint Dismas the good thief" is often depicted wearing a
loincloth, sometimes holding his cross, and sometimes even in
paradise.» Uncover the identity of the man who helped Jesus
carry the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent
historical studies have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a
rare punishment in Rome; thieves usually had to repay what they
stole along with added fines and were subjected to other smaller
forms of retribution. However, traveling banditsâ€"who were also
often political rebelsâ€"were endemic to the Roman Empire.
This seems a more likely match of these characters and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common inscription
on many Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars
that Dismas may have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may
have had a noble cause. A fitting ancient Roman folklore character,
by the name of Bulla Felix, fits this description.How Did the Two
Thieves React to the Presence of Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty
about his actions and didn't complain about his crucifixion at all.
He exercised humility, taking responsibility for what he did and
owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence, selflessness, and glory
of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as the Son of God and asked him
to take him to heaven, as is written in Luke 23:42:"Jesus, remember
me when You come into Your kingdom.†Jesus replied,
“Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in
Paradise.†This is why in ancient paintings, he often appears
to be in heaven, depicted as a saint.GestasGesta means
“deeds†or “acts†in Latinâ€"and Gestas
felt the effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus
along with the crowd. Gestas said, “Aren’t you the
Messiah? Save yourself and us!†Dismas rebuked
him:“Don’t you fear God,†he said, “since
you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are
getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing
wrong.â€â€"Luke 23: 39-41 NIVGestas had the same
opportunity that Dismas didâ€"to repent, to see the majesty
of the Lord, and to ask for forgivenessâ€"but he turned away
instead. Gestas was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity
rather than move closer to God.
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You're being too literal; Luke's account of Jesus' Passion is not
historical.
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Closer than you think. Left is usually the cracked egg in the carton.
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And, your proof is?
I'll help.
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