Re: jewish emancipation also means emancipation from ancient rituals

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Sujet : Re: jewish emancipation also means emancipation from ancient rituals
De : marcs12212 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Zionazi)
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Date : 10. Dec 2024, 11:29:22
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„Imagine how Jews feel about it. Have you ever attended a Bris (ritual
circumcision)?“
Precisely because I can empathize with Jews here I am addressing this…
it‘s not that I hate them, I am criticising this out of love for humans
in general and out of love for Jews in particular. Humans have a right
for bodily Integrity, it Respects their dignity.
It is of no matter if I have ever Attended a bris. How would that make a
difference…
„There is dual "vibe." Pride and Joy at entering a child into the fold
and tension/pity over the pain that the infant is going to go through.“
There Are a few more things to consider here than just the pain of the
infant. It affects the relationship of the infant to its caregivers.
Freud:
„The results of the threat of castration are multifarious and
incalculable; they affect the whole ofa boy's relations with his father
and mother and subsequently with men and women in general.“
And
„The primaeval  custom of  circumcision, another substitute  for
castration,  can only  beunderstood as an expression of submission to
the father's will…“
Furthermore you seem to ignore the fact that no matter how safe it is
regarded generally, Botched circumcisions do Happen — humans are Not
infallible. Statistics…
Since you asked me if I ever attended a bris, let Me ask you: did you
ever speak and empathize with a Jew or non-Jew who suffered botched
surgery? Who now has Problems functioning sexually, or cant have Sex at
all? Has pain when having Sex? I Assume Not, it seems Like You gambled a
Bit when it came to mutilate the genitalia of your children…
So rabbis are sacrificing the well-being of Jews just to keep their
wet-Dream of the coming of the Messiah alive… instead of burying this
thought once and for all After the shoah…
„The fact is, though, that the baby usually starts crying as soon as he
is on his back and exposed. When the snip occurs, you often can't even
hear in increase in intensity of the crying. Not that it doesn't hurt.
I've the opposite, where the baby is perfectly happy until the snip. The
baby is given a wine-soaked cloth to suck on which districts him and
presumably anesthetic. I've never seen a baby cry at a bris for money
than a minute or so. It doesn't seem as though it bothers them any more
than a wet or dirty diaper.“
If I groomed a minor and made them give me a blowjob— and she didnt cry,
would that excuse what I did?
„I don't know if there's research on this.“
There is, but you don’t even need to Read into it, as if you would think
critically, instead of downplaying the bris, you‘d realize yourself how
Barbaric This practice is.
There Are also different ways in which Jews practice this (some orthodox
Jews suck on the penis a Little; metzizah — Not sure why tbh)
„In some ultra-Orthodox communities, particularly in Israel and the USA,
the mohel finishes the circumcision by sucking the blood from the wound
directly on the child's penis with his mouth (Metzitzah B'peh). This
practice is highly controversial because it can lead to the child
becoming infected with herpes simplex type 1, with the risk of brain
damage and death.“
And
„According to a study published in 2012 by the US Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention (CDC)[15], around 3,600 newborn boys per year
within the community of ultra-Orthodox Jews in New York City (which has
around 250,000 members) underwent this variant of the procedure.[16]
From November 2000 to December 2011, eleven cases were reported in which
the circumcised infants were infected with herpes; ten had to be treated
in hospital. Two of them suffered permanent brain damage, two of them
died. The number of unreported cases is unknown. The appeal by then New
York Mayor Michael Bloomberg in 2005 to distance themselves from this
practice was rejected with the claim that oral-genital circumcision was
safe.[17] Rabbi David Zwiebel claimed in June 2012 that regulation would
push the ceremony underground and thus make it riskier.[16] In September
2012, the New York City Board of Health passed a rule that a mohel may
only perform a metzitzah b'peh if the boy's parents have given prior
written consent.[18]“

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