Re: Screw Celibidache‘s Beethoven

Furtwängler is also kind of mushy — like the way he sort of connects the
opening chords in Beethoven 5… and Furtwängler exaggerates the moment at
minute 0:21/22… it makes me laugh, I can’t take it seriously… sounds a
bit forced imo…
https://youtu.be/GJG5A-klfgE?si=cyNDAaYIq-iYKoA0
Listen to how Mengelberg does this.. so beautiful…
https://youtu.be/LkqKnyRdZy8?si=Uol2d6_988MVt_4p
But Furtwängler as opposed to the Kleibers and Karajan seems to phrase
things much better generally… not as hurried… same seems to be the case
with Konwitschny…