Re: Klemperer

On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 1:11:57 +0000, vallor wrote:

Definitely not Klemperer -- I was listening to different
versions of Beethoven's 5th, 4th movement, on archive.org
recordings, and found his rendition to be veerrry sloooow...

I don't like his Beethoven either, but you shouldn't extrapolate like
this. In Mozart he is actually not so slow and in his younger years his
Beethoven was also quite different -- his conducting style was quite
different generally, much faster.
See some examples:
Mozart Symphony 25 - recorded 1956, but quite fast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6lOObdTX14
It's not my favorite though, I prefer Krips and Kertesz here.
Mozart Symphony 25 - recorded 1950; a bit faster it seems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3bGOFPS8UE
Beethoven Coriolan Ouverture 1957:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyttdPXxrh0
vs
Beethoven Coriolan Ouverture 1926:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1PyBs1Rca8

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It's almost like a durge compared to any other performance
I've heard.  Didn't like it at all.

To my ears tempo is not the problem here, or rather it becomes a problem
because of other factors -- I actually really like Celibidache's
Beethoven 5 which is even slower ;)
But my favorite Beethoven 5 is probably this one by Mengelberg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkqKnyRdZy8
I especially love how he does this part in the 4th movement (regarding
the 4th movement) -- starting at 29:38:
https://youtu.be/LkqKnyRdZy8?si=f5-oItFu-kL5vyN9&t=1778

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https://archive.org/details/lp_symphony-no-5_ludwig-van-beethoven-otto-klemperer-phi/disc1/02.01.+Symphony+No.+5+In+C+Minor%2C+Op.+67%3A+Third+Movement%3A+Allegro+-+Fourth+Movement%3A+Allegro+-+Presto.mp3