Re: Best Chopin Ballade 3

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Sujet : Re: Best Chopin Ballade 3
De : marcs12212 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Zionazi)
Groupes : rec.music.classical.recordings
Date : 08. Dec 2024, 10:40:29
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On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 4:13:48 +0000, DeepBlue wrote:

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 16:09:43 +0000, Zionazi wrote:
>
So i tried to See things from your Perspective,
try to understand why you liked some things
disliked others
>
This is sheer idiocy, which proves that you are
incapable of reading and understanding what others
write.
Actually this is empathy — which you as a narcissist obviously lack.

>
I have no "perspective". I do not experience and/or
evaluate music based on any preconceived ideas or
belief systems. You appear to be incapable of even
cosidering the notion that other people's brains or
sensory organs are wired differently from yours --
and don't short circuit as often.
Sure you have a perspective you idiot… your Perspective…
Let me illustrate: your Perspective is/was that Richter‘s Chopin Ballade
3 is the best Recording of it ;)
Where exactly did you read that I argued that you have any
Concept/preconceived ideas under which you examine interpretations?
Making things up again?
It’s also ofc not completely true, that you don’t have any preconceived
ideas… so for example you get immediately Turned Off by sth that Sounds
mechanical, metronomical etc. (Adjectives you frequently use to
criticise Performances you don’t like — it‘s a Bit Of a cheap critique,
but most of the times I can See where You’re coming from)
So, all I‘m saying is: when you said x is the best Recording of y, and
you critiqued z for sounding mechanical, I listened to these Versions,
and could _empathize_ with your viewpoint. Sometimes Even without
explaining why you like sth more than sth else (sure we might have
different reasons for preference here)
Furthermore you explained you like light, coloratura voices with Little
vibrato (Hallstein) in Mozart…. Ahhh… so - based on your experience -
you actually have some preconceived ideas about how sth should Sound ;)
No Wagnerian Singers in Mozart… so You Lied above - typical for a
narcissistic individual (like yourself)
Etc. Etc.

>
This is yet another example of a pedantic Teutonic
fixation with "understanding". One does not need to
"understand" things in order to experience and enjoy
them. Conversely, "understanding" things does not
make them any more enjoyable.
You are the one being Pedantic, Talking a lot of nonsense and lying
around as usual…

>
One can enjoy chocolate, dumplings, risotto, sushi,
port and scotch without "understanding" them. One
can also dislike beef, chicken, turkey, sea urchin
or געפֿילטע פֿיש without "understanding" them.
Yadda yadda yadda

>
For me music is a sensory experience, not a thinking,
intellectual experience. Capisce?
Yeah… and I feel the same; which is why I Wrote above that I _feel_ that
you really _feel_ the music — narcissists often use music to regulate,
to feel etc. — because narcissists are usually disconnected from their
emotions, and music makes them (you) actually feel things…

>
and gain an understanding in my own taste (why i
like sth etc and new insights let to repercussions
rearrangement of my Taste etc.).
>
Self consciousness is a burden. Just look how much
time you are wasting to "understand" yourself.
It is Not, it is Emancipation and enlightenment — brings a certain inner
balance and helps understanding other people/developing empathy.

>
We don’t have the same taste,
>
Of course not. You have no taste, except perhaps the
taste haloperidol leaves in your mouth. Please share
so others know what to expect.
I‘d think people with a good Taste wouldnt mutilate the penis of Babies…
what exactly was your mom thinking?

>
Ciao!

Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 Dec 24 * Best Chopin Ballade 322Zionazi
5 Dec 24 `* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 321DeepBlue
6 Dec 24  `* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 320Zionazi
6 Dec 24   `* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 319DeepBlue
6 Dec 24    `* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 318Zionazi
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6 Dec 24       `* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 311DeepBlue
6 Dec 24        `* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 310Zionazi
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8 Dec 24         `* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 38DeepBlue
8 Dec 24          +* Re: Best Chopin Ballade 32Zionazi
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