Re: jewish emancipation also means emancipation from ancient rituals

On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 6:38:03 +0000, Frank Berger wrote:

Jeez... why would I find such things digusting? ;D

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You are entitled to be disgusted by anything. Consider the fact that
millions of people disagree with you.

A Billion at least actually - you forgot them muzzies ;D
Milions - well maybe actually Billions - also disagree with you and
myself about the right of Israel to exist. Consider this fact.
Millions of people in Germany also considered themselves (as you
well-know) to be saving the world by ridding the world of Jews. Consider
this fact.
Millions of people in Israel consider themselves to be saving the world
- fulfilling God's commandments and thus preparing the earth for the
arrival of the messiah - by mutilating the dicks of their infants.
Consider this fact.
etc etc

You see, you have to notice the barbarism not only in others, but also
yourself. Judaism is not free from barbarism.
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Opinion.

No, it's the truth.
Again Schabbat 134 - which you conveniently ignore:
"As it was taught in a baraita, Rabbi Natan said: On one occasion, I
went to the coastal cities, and one woman came before me who circumcised
her first son and he died, and she circumcised her second son and he
died, and since she feared circumcising the third due to concern that he
might die as well, she brought him before me. I saw that he was red. I
said to her: Wait until his blood is absorbed into him. She waited until
his blood was absorbed into him and then circumcised him, and he lived.
And they would call him Natan the Babylonian after my name."
This is barbarism. The mother and the rabbi gambled with the life of the
child, and you gambled with the well-being of your child. I am still
waiting for you to address this - but you don't because you don't have
any counter-argument, so you just ignore. You are free ofc to continue
to behave like a moron.
Next you'll be telling me that it's an opinion that Nazism is not free
from barbarism. Or that the religion of the aztecs and their human
sacrifices are not barbaric - it's all just opinion.
What you are doing here is relativization. Cultural relativization. You
see, islamic culture is morally (amongst other things) inferior to
Jewish culture, and Jewish culture is morally inferior to secular
culture -- maybe not in every aspect, but generally.
This has become en vogue in the west, to relativize cultures (especially
to hate on the western culture) -- instead of realizing that western
culture is superior to islamic culture.

I really don't care about your personal opinion. Why should I?

Obviously you do, otherwise you wouldn't be asking me questions about
this matter...
The real problem though is, that you don't care about the Jewish infants
who died because of this barbaric procedure, and that you didn't care
about the well-being of your own child.
Sure shoot the messenger, not the rabbis I guess ;D
Again: Schabbat 134a:
"As it was taught in a baraita, Rabbi Natan said: On one occasion, I
went to the coastal cities, and one woman came before me who circumcised
her first son and he died, and she circumcised her second son and he
died, and since she feared circumcising the third due to concern that he
might die as well, she brought him before me. I saw that he was red. I
said to her: Wait until his blood is absorbed into him. She waited until
his blood was absorbed into him and then circumcised him, and he lived.
And they would call him Natan the Babylonian after my name."
See how little you care about the well-being of Jews? And the well-being
of your own child? You ignore that Jewish infants have died because of
this.