Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?

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De : dan.koren (at) *nospam* gmail.com (DeepBlue)
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Date : 07. Apr 2025, 19:09:50
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 5:06:52 +0000, PPeso wrote:

On 4/6/2025 6:36 PM, DeepBlue wrote:
>
How is this not "strict literalism", and how did he
know "better"? Today's instruments are nothing like
the pianoforti and the fortepiani of his time. Could
any compawsers living in those times have imagined
the sound of a 9' Boisendorfer, Fazioli, or Yamaha?
>
Precisely my point, they couldn't. This is why Schubert
and co. played on a Fazioli is a transcription. Nothing
wrong with that, and not a very original point anyway
after about sixty years of debates on original
instruments and HIPs.
It seems to me you are stretching the meaning of the
word 'transcription' far beyond its accepted common
meaning.

I very much prefer to hear different sound, different
color palettes, and different expression and phrasing
from the two pianists rather than a homogenuous sound
mix. To my ears the latter is more bland.
>
Your prerogative.
Thanks for allowing me minimal constitutional rights! ;-)

A performance
of a 4 hand piano work on 2 pianos is not a transcription
unless the score has been modified. If one followed your
reasoning to its logical conclusion performing the work
on any instrumenti that are however different from Franz'
spinet would create a "transcription".
>
Technically Schubert played pianos by Seidner and Walther
& Sohn. And, actually, a modification of the "score" has
never been a necessary condition for a "transcription"
(in fact, a modification of the score is more properly
an "arrangement"). Again, we are reinventing the wheel
here. And again, whatever makes you happy.
"We" are not reinventing "wheels" or anything else. You
are attempting to redefine the meaning of common English
vocabulary with clear intent to promote a strict literalist
concept of musical interpretation. To the extent one can
make sense of what you are saying, it sounds to me like
"any manner of performing a musical work that is different
from what the compawser 'intended' or on instruments that
are however slightly different from those used during the
times when the work was composed, or in a manner that is
different from the performing practice during those times
is a 'transcription' ".
ROTFL !!!

Date Sujet#  Auteur
6 Apr 25 * What is the reason for this piano duo layout?18DeepBlue
6 Apr 25 `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?17PPeso
6 Apr 25  `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?16DeepBlue
6 Apr 25   `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?15PPeso
6 Apr 25    `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?14DeepBlue
7 Apr 25     +- Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?1Owen Hartnett
7 Apr 25     `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?12PPeso
7 Apr 25      `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?11DeepBlue
7 Apr 25       `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?10PPeso
8 Apr 25        `* Re: What is the reason for this piano duo layout?9DeepBlue
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