Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer

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Sujet : Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer
De : richard (at) *nospam* cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin)
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Date : 10. Feb 2025, 16:38:08
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In article <vobinl$1jvp$1@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk>,
Richard Tobin <richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

In article <vo9t64$hlp5$2@dont-email.me>,
David Entwistle  <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> wrote:
Please don't post a direct answer to the question posed, but I'd welcome a
bit of guidance on Mathsbombe question 3.

I have guessed the correct answer without understanding the problem.

I have now understood the problem (and its solution).

Let me clarify the points that have caused some doubt about the
problem itself.

(1) The coins have value x^0 (=1), x^1 (=x), x^2, x^3, ... for some
    irrational x > 3.3.

(2) Any positive integer amount can be made.  This will require an
    unlimited number of coins in total, but not more than 14 of any
    single value.

Here are some obvious observations:

(1) We could equally well consider the problem to be representing an
    integer in the irrational base x, where the digits are 0 .. 14.

(2) We need to find an irrational x such that we can add multiples of
    its powers to get integers.  That rules out x being transcendental
    by definition.

And finally a hint that should not give much away until you are on the
right track:

You may, like me, stumble upon the correct value of x and then see
that it works for numbers up to N - a number greater than 400 - but
not immediately see how it works beyond that.  I had to think of it
somewhat differently to see that it does.

-- Richard

Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Jan 25 * MathsBombe23David Entwistle
9 Feb 25 `* Re: MathsBombe22David Entwistle
9 Feb 25  +* Re: MathsBombe6Richard Heathfield
9 Feb 25  i+* Re: MathsBombe4Mike Terry
9 Feb 25  ii`* Re: MathsBombe3Richard Heathfield
9 Feb 25  ii `* Re: MathsBombe2Mike Terry
10 Feb 25  ii  `- Re: MathsBombe1Richard Heathfield
11 Feb 25  i`- Re: MathsBombe1Richard Tobin
9 Feb 25  +- Re: MathsBombe1David Entwistle
10 Feb 25  `* Re: MathsBombe14Richard Tobin
10 Feb 25   +- Re: MathsBombe1Richard Heathfield
10 Feb 25   `* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer12Richard Tobin
11 Feb 25    +* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer4David Entwistle
11 Feb 25    i`* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer3Richard Tobin
11 Feb 25    i `* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer2David Entwistle
19 Feb 25    i  `- Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer1David Entwistle
20 Feb 25    `* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer7David Entwistle
20 Feb 25     `* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer6David Entwistle
20 Feb 25      +* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer2Richard Tobin
20 Feb 25      i`- Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer1David Entwistle
20 Feb 25      `* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer3Mike Terry
20 Feb 25       `* Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer2Richard Tobin
21 Feb 25        `- Re: MathsBombe - observations but not the answer1Mike Terry

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