Re: Stone selection by wild chimpanzees shares patterns with Oldowan hominins

On 2.1.2025. 12:05, Mario Petrinovic wrote:

On 2.1.2025. 8:21, JTEM wrote:

On 1/1/25 5:26 PM, Mario Petrinovic wrote:
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         Jesus, they were claiming that something magical happened 300 kya,

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That's not science, that's WokeTardia. Out of Africa purity fell apart,
they found Hss features in Asia before they should have ever arrived so
they just decided to call something "Modern" even though it clearly is
not.
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They've done worse, even more obviously fake... like Naledi's burial
inscriptions, fires and whatnot...
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which produced "spiritual" humans. You know, red ochre, and all this.

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That was found in Europe and attributed to Heidelberg Man.
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So, we all, today's humans, which are "spiritual", because we have, like, religion, are descendants from those Adan and Eve, who were, suddenly, hit by the "divine spark" 300 kya.

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It's about "Symbolic thinking."
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Which, personally, *I* would argue is what modern humans modern...
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Evidence for religious beliefs, spirituality is always evidence for
symbolic thinking. That's why it's so important.
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Many times I've had turkeys come after me, looking for a handout.
This is a sign of intelligence, recognizing me, remembering that
they had gotten some cracked corn from me. But if I showed the
turkeys a model of the street and pointed out where I had just
dropped a pile of cracked corn, they're never ever going to figure
it out.

          First, street doesn't look the same from your height and from turkey's height. Turkeys do fly if attacked, but it is questionable if they are looking at anything in those moments, or are they, simply, trying to save themselves, and are watching for some other clues.
         It were those first tests that they give to kids in kindergarten. One of those is, they show to the kids cubes of different sizes, and different colors, and they ask them which one is the biggest. And all the kids point to the cube of the same color (I believe it is a red color, but I don't recall exactly which color). I was the one who pointed to the biggest cube. A lady told me that other kids point to the (red) cube. I did understand the concept of being "big", while other kids didn't.
         Few years later they gave us (the kids in kindergarten) watercolor paint. All the kids painted simple (wire-like) houses, cars, and people, I painted upper half in dark blue, and lower half in dark green. Lady asked me, what did I paint, I said that it is dark clouds coming over the hill. She said that she doesn't see clouds there, I said that I am still little, so I don't know how to paint clouds. She asked me, if there is a hill like that near my house. I said that actually there is, but it can be *any* hill. She was very surprised with that answer, this is a case of symbolic thinking in a kid in kindergarten. Later they grouped me in a group of talented kids. On every intelligence test that I attended I was the best in a group. So, I am an expert in symbolic thinking. Trust me, "symbolic' thinking isn't a product of a "divine spark" which hit Adam and Eve, this isn't one magical moment in our past, this isn't one special mutation, animals have it too.
         See, you are doing exactly the same like those whom you are calling a fools, and WokeTardia. Believing in God in 21st century isn't a proof of symbolic thinking, it is a proof of stupidity. Whoever claims that humans ground hematite so that they paint their skin, instead of using sharp (ground) hematite for some practical purpose, is an idiot, if people ground hematite to paint skin, and not to sharpen hematite, they weren't some uber beings, they were idiots.

BTW, humans have language. Each word is a symbol for something. This is your "symbolic thinking". And people developed this for many millions of years. Animals have some mental abilities humans can only dream to have. But, "these aren't important", only abilities that humans have, only those are "important". Animals evolved with their abilities just like humans evolved with human abilities, it is completely the same, there isn't any "spiritual", higher, uber, value to what we are doing, as compared to what animals are doing. There *isn't* anything magical surrounding humans, as opposed to animals (doesn't matter how much make-up you put on us to look like there is), we are not God's creatures, you bloody idiots, we are just standard idiots, nothing more.
Actually, there is nothing else except stupidity. Whoever thinks that he has something in his head which gives him the ability to be "smart", like "always right", he lives in delusion. You cannot know everything, you can only be stupid, nobody will ever be smart, nobody will ever be God-like, this is impossible, God doesn't exist, God cannot exist, and we cannot be God-like, doesn't matter how much we would like to be God-like.