Re: Starch-rich plant foods 780,000 y ago: Evidence from Acheulian percussive stone tools

On 10.2.2025. 6:26, Primum Sapienti wrote:

Mario Petrinovic wrote:

On 3.2.2025. 6:21, Primum Sapienti wrote:

Mario Petrinovic wrote:

 

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         Not 2 million years ago, but 500 kya for sure. I mean, you will not say that people in Africa are less smart than normal people, and they still don't have cities, they live in tribes, with villages. Aborigines in Australia also. See what happened in Tasmania.
         When you gather food, you don't process it, you eat it immediately. You think that they would gather apples, and not eat them?

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Not so. See, for example
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https://www.britannica.com/topic/cooking
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"Some foods had to be prepared carefully
to remove toxins."
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"Hunter-gatherers processed foods to preserve them.
Because some hunter-gatherer societies faced
uncertain food supplies, particularly in winter,
they developed techniques such as smoking and
drying to make foods last longer."

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         You are stupid.

 Hunter gatherers also have camps. Food is brought back
to them. Food can also be used in trade. Some sort of
storage tech is needed to do that.
 See
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter-gatherer
 In areas where plant and fish resources are scarce,
hunter-gatherers may trade meat with
horticulturalists for carbohydrates. For example,
tropical hunter-gatherers may have an excess of
protein but be deficient in carbohydrates, and
conversely tropical horticulturalists may have a
surplus of carbohydrates but inadequate protein.
 and
 One way to divide hunter-gatherer groups is by
their return systems. James Woodburn uses the
categories "immediate return" hunter-gatherers
for egalitarianism and "delayed return" for
nonegalitarian. Immediate return foragers consume
their food within a day or two after they procure
it. Delayed return foragers store the surplus food.

You just wrote that, in order to have hunter-gatherers first you need to have horticulturalists. How you imagine non-egalitarian hunter gatherers? Non-egalitarian are horticulturalists.
In Euroasia we had three types of societies:
- horticulturalists, non-egalitarian
- cattle herders, which conquered the horticulturalists, conquerors. egalitarian among themselves, non-egalitarian towards the conquered people
- fishermen, which are your typical "hunter-gatherers", egalitarian
As opposed to Euroasia, in Africa we still have primal societies. Are people in Africa hunter-gatherers? I wouldn't say so. Primarily they do keep cattle (this is their primary food source), and they live sedentary life style, in tribes.
So, science, once again, showed to be completely confused, maintaining their stupid believes in having something simple at the start, which was not long ago, immediately before the emergence of science, and then came science, and things suddenly evolved immensely. Stupid, stupid, stupid.