Re: Dicynodonts depicted by San people in SOuth Africa

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Sujet : Re: Dicynodonts depicted by San people in SOuth Africa
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : sci.bio.paleontology
Date : 21. Sep 2024, 10:30:28
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On 2024-09-19 15:27:03 +0000, erik simpson said:

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0309908
 Abstract
 The Horned Serpent panel at La Belle France (Free State Province, South Africa) was painted by the San at least two hundred years ago. It pictures, among many other elements, a tusked animal with a head that resembles that of a dicynodont, the fossils of which are abundant and conspicuous in the Karoo Basin. This picture also seemingly relates to a local San myth about large animals that once roamed southern Africa and are now extinct. This suggests the existence of a San geomyth about dicynodonts. Here, the La Belle France site has been visited, the existence of the painted tusked animal is confirmed, and the presence of tetrapod fossils in its immediate vicinity is supported. Altogether, they suggest a case of indigenous palaeontology. The painting is dated between 1821 and 1835, or older, making it at least ten years older than the formal scientific description of the first dicynodont, Dicynodon lacerticeps, in 1845. The painting of a dicynodont by the San would also suggest that they integrated (at least some) fossils into their belief system.
 Modern depictions of Dicynodonts show a bizarre creature unlike anything alive today.  It makes me wonder of these depictions might also be a suprise if we could see these creatures as they were.  They were remarkable in somehow surviving the end-Permian extinction and continuing until the end of the Triassic.  It looked ungainly, but had a long, successful run.
When were the fossils described in 1845 excavated? Perhaps the artists got
some information from the scientinsts before the publication.
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
19 Sep 24 * Dicynodonts depicted by San people in SOuth Africa3erik simpson
21 Sep 24 `* Re: Dicynodonts depicted by San people in SOuth Africa2Mikko
21 Sep 24  `- Re: Dicynodonts depicted by San people in SOuth Africa1erik simpson

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