Re: talk.origins

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Sujet : Re: talk.origins
De : eastside.erik (at) *nospam* gmail.com (erik simpson)
Groupes : sci.bio.paleontology
Date : 09. May 2025, 18:52:17
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On 5/9/25 9:47 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 07:53:56 -0700, erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
 
On 5/9/25 4:08 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:04:35 -0700, erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Just out of curiosity, has anyone here seen (if you've looked) anything
on talk.origins.  It seems to be dead.
>
Has anyone contact DIG? He doesn't always pick up on a breakdown
unless someone informs him.
I just wrote DIG.  The last thing is see in TO is a post by me about an
absurd article indicating that pine trees can predict eclipses.
 Why dismiss it as absurd out of hand? It would have been more
convincing for you to explain why you think it is absurd.
 You seem to be particularly annoyed about them bringing QFT into it
but trees are a lifeform just as we are and I can't see why applying
QFT to them is any more absurd that invoking it in regard to *any*
lifeform.
 By coincidence, I was reading this article just before I saw your
post.:
 "Never Underestimate the Intelligence of Trees"
https://nautil.us/never-underestimate-the-intelligence-of-trees-237595/
 I have posted previously about the research by Suzanne Simard, the
main focus of the article.
  
Trees do indeed communicate, but this "study" has many objections. You need to look at the original article. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.241786
The authors wired up trees in the Italian Dolomites and measured something that they attributed to older trees anticipating the coming eclipse by several hours(!) and warning younger trees.
A) In any gien location, eclipses are very rare.
B) Eclipse durations are very short, and absolutely of no import to plants.  (Nights are generally much darker and longer than eclipses).
C) The authors' gratuitously say their analysis uses methods of quantum field theory.
All of the above should have triggered peer reviewers and editors of the journal.  Just what the authors measured is unclear.  Did they perform similar experiments at other times or locations?  How could any of this be repeated or tested?

Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Apr 25 * talk.origins16erik simpson
29 Apr 25 +* Re: talk.origins4John Harshman
4 May 25 i`* Re: talk.origins3jillery
4 May 25 i `* Re: talk.origins2erik simpson
5 May 25 i  `- Re: talk.origins1jillery
1 May 25 +* Re: talk.origins2Dale
3 May 25 i`- Re: talk.origins1Dale
9 May 25 +* Re: talk.origins8erik simpson
10 May 25 i+* Re: talk.origins6erik simpson
12 May 25 ii`* Re: talk.origins5erik simpson
12 May 25 ii +* Re: talk.origins3erik simpson
13 May 25 ii i`* Re: talk.origins2John Harshman
13 May 25 ii i `- Re: talk.origins1erik simpson
13 May 25 ii `- Re: talk.origins1jillery
12 May 25 i`- Re: talk.origins1Popping Mad
11 May 25 `- Re: talk.origins1jillery

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