Sujet : Re: talk.origins
De : eastside.erik (at) *nospam* gmail.com (erik simpson)
Groupes : sci.bio.paleontologyDate : 09. May 2025, 18:52:17
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On 5/9/25 9:47 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 07:53:56 -0700, erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/9/25 4:08 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:04:35 -0700, erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone here seen (if you've looked) anything
on talk.origins. It seems to be dead.
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Has anyone contact DIG? He doesn't always pick up on a breakdown
unless someone informs him.
I just wrote DIG. The last thing is see in TO is a post by me about an
absurd article indicating that pine trees can predict eclipses.
Why dismiss it as absurd out of hand? It would have been more
convincing for you to explain why you think it is absurd.
You seem to be particularly annoyed about them bringing QFT into it
but trees are a lifeform just as we are and I can't see why applying
QFT to them is any more absurd that invoking it in regard to *any*
lifeform.
By coincidence, I was reading this article just before I saw your
post.:
"Never Underestimate the Intelligence of Trees"
https://nautil.us/never-underestimate-the-intelligence-of-trees-237595/
I have posted previously about the research by Suzanne Simard, the
main focus of the article.
Trees do indeed communicate, but this "study" has many objections. You need to look at the original article.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.241786The authors wired up trees in the Italian Dolomites and measured something that they attributed to older trees anticipating the coming eclipse by several hours(!) and warning younger trees.
A) In any gien location, eclipses are very rare.
B) Eclipse durations are very short, and absolutely of no import to plants. (Nights are generally much darker and longer than eclipses).
C) The authors' gratuitously say their analysis uses methods of quantum field theory.
All of the above should have triggered peer reviewers and editors of the journal. Just what the authors measured is unclear. Did they perform similar experiments at other times or locations? How could any of this be repeated or tested?