Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.

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Sujet : Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.
De : nobody (at) *nospam* yamn.paranoici.org (Anonymous)
Groupes : alt.privacy.anon-server sci.crypt
Date : 04. Jun 2024, 19:41:18
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A Remailer User <remailer-user@somewhere.invalid> wrote:

Edward Teach <hackbeard@linuxmail.org> wrote:

Much of what you say is perfectly valid.  That said, there are
intermediate steps that people can take....not getting to complete
anonymity or perfect privacy.....but a step or two better than nothing!
(1) Anonymity.  You can use mail addresses from MAIL.COM.  When you do
this you also need to make sure that these mail addresses are only used
from public places (say internet cafes) so that both the email address
and the IP address are not linked to a single person.  Of course the
RECIPIENT email address(es) might give the game away!
 
For that purpose we do have nymservers, controlled through anonymous
remailers.
 
(2) Privacy.  I'm always amused when people talk about "public key
infrastructure", say PGP and the like.  Any group of people can set up
a Diffie/Hellman protocol.  With this in place EVERY MESSAGE gets a
random throwaway shared secret encryption key.  There are no published
keys anywhere....the keys are calculated when needed and then destroyed.
 
How will you implement DH key negotiations while preserving the
anonymity of both participants?
 
(3) E2EE.  Any group using items #1 and #2 are giving the snoops MUCH
more work.  Of course, snooping will not be impossible......but it
might be made very difficult, both on the privacy side and on the
anonymity side.....and without huge amounts of heavy lifting for the
users.
 
Let each participant set up an anonymous mail account at a nymserver,
exchange public keys with the initial mail message and from then on use
Whole-Message-Encryption.  Problem solved.
 
 
Have a look at the Wikipedia section about anonymous remailing
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_remailer), which currently is
no more than an empty shell and urgently needs an update adding all the
software projects this still most secure and universally applicable
method of anonymous communication bases on (Mixmaster, YAMN,
Quicksilver, OmniMix).
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixmaster_anonymous_remailer
 
| Original author(s) Lance Cottrell
| Developer(s)       Len Sassaman and Peter Palfrader
| Stable release     3.0 / March 3, 2008
| Type               Anonymous remailer
| Website            http://mixmaster.sourceforge.net/
 
e.g. makes you think that anonymous remailing is dead, which is dead
wrong.  Mixmaster continues to work great, in addition we now have the
YAMN network, and there's client software, that allows a seamless
integration into your e-mailing workflow.


Are you aware of
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anonymous_remailer&diff=prev&oldid=260821642

There's obviously someone who aims at dampening awareness of anonymous
remailing, which makes it even more attractive, at least to me.

Anyone out there with a Wikipedia account willing to update the remailer
section with contents we put together here?  For years nobody took steps
against such blandant censorship.  Isn't it time to put things straight?


Date Sujet#  Auteur
22 Apr 24 * Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.10SugarBug
22 Apr 24 +* Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.4Anonymous
22 Apr 24 i`* Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.3Yamn Remailer
23 Apr 24 i `* Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.2Jan Panteltje
23 Apr 24 i  `- Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.1Nomen Nescio
2 Jun 24 +* Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.4Edward Teach
2 Jun 24 i`* Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.3A Remailer User
4 Jun 24 i `* Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.2Anonymous
5 Jun 24 i  `- Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.1Nomen Nescio
2 Jun 24 `- Re: Protonmail and 'Swiss privacy' remind me of Operation Rubicon.1The Running Man

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