Re: Seriation

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Sujet : Re: Seriation
De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 08. Dec 2024, 06:58:45
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Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote:
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
Seriation is not a cipher, it is a technique used to build ciphers. Like
substitution and permutation, of which it is a form of the latter.
 
It can be useful eg with digram-based ciphers like Playfair, where it
makes cryptanalysis based on the known frequency of occurrence of
digrams in the plaintext language much harder or impossible.
 
Yes, thank you for the explanation! It could also be a nice replacement
for SCOS, here in sci.crypt, combined with an A-Z encoder/decoder and a
padding program, since SCOS was cracked and floating around on Bitmessage
and code for seriation I have not seen yet elsewhere.

SCOS was never meant to be in any way 'secure'.  Hense the name: (S)ci
(C)rypt (O)pen (S)ecret.  It was meant as a fun exercise at
cryptanalysis and working out a crypt/decrypt algorithm given examples
of encrypted messages.

Maybe worth a little challenge, to have such a format for sci.crypt,
with an AZ encoder, a pad and seriation program.  :-)

And why would you think it would not also eventually be "cracked" and
"floating around on bitmessage" after some time?


Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Dec 24 * Seriation19Stefan Claas
7 Dec 24 +* Re: Seriation8Peter Fairbrother
8 Dec 24 i`* Re: Seriation7Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i +* Re: Seriation4Rich
8 Dec 24 i i`* Re: Seriation3Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i i `* Re: Seriation2Rich
8 Dec 24 i i  `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i `* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 `* Re: Seriation10Peter Fairbrother
8 Dec 24  `* Re: Seriation9Stefan Claas
9 Dec 24   `* Re: Seriation8Peter Fairbrother
9 Dec 24    `* Re: Seriation7Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     +* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     i`- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     `* Re: Seriation4Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24      `* Re: Seriation3Stefan Claas
14 Dec 24       `* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
15 Dec 24        `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas

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