Re: Seriation

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Sujet : Re: Seriation
De : fgrsna.pynnf (at) *nospam* vagrearg.eh (Stefan Claas)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 01. Feb 2025, 14:05:34
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 01/02/2025 12:19, Stefan Claas wrote:
 
<snip>
 
IIRC when encoding with Umlauts etc. at the same position
the original Umlauts will be shown.
 
Yes. By design, SCOS and SCOS2 preserve not only whitespace but anything
else they have not been told how to process[1]. We have seen aob come a
cropper by making whitespace significant in Usenet ciphertexts, and that
was precisely the problem I was guarding against, but it also makes
sense only to digest text it knows about and pass through unmodified
everything it doesn't, thus making copy-and-paste ciphertext in an ASCII
medium Just Work.
 
This should be not
the case IMHO.
 
It is of course your prerogative to disagree with my design, but it is
likewise my prerogative to prefer a deliberately ASCII-only design for
use in an ASCII environment such as Usenet.

Well, maybe only a very few US hosting service are ASCII only in 2025,
but we should ignore them, as Eurasiens ... ;-) I added also the british
pound sign and Euro symbol. :-)

I like bananas. You prefer pears. Great! By all means eat pears. But
I'll stick to bananas, thanks.

I never liked bananas and you are right I stick with pears. :-)

[1] It would be simple enough to make it understand /everything/, but to
do so requires departing from a printable ciphertext the same size as
its printable plaintext, could make the algorithm significantly harder
to crack from ciphertext only (and thus work to defeat the whole point
of the exercise), and might even (as in your example, which I did look
at BTW) result in a non-ASCII source file.

We live for decades in UTF-8 times, as Eurasiens, mind you. :-)

Well, anyways, I hope you don't mind a SCOS3 version, while people
in the U.S. and UK can stick with your original v2 design. SCOS was
anyways cracked and floating around in Bitmessage chans, in various
Programming Languages. I thought a little improvement for us litte
Sauerkrauts (Marcel ,Thomas and me etc.) would not hurt. :-)

Best regards
Stefan

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Dec 24 * Seriation60Stefan Claas
7 Dec 24 +* Re: Seriation49Peter Fairbrother
8 Dec 24 i`* Re: Seriation48Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i +* Re: Seriation45Rich
8 Dec 24 i i+* Re: Seriation22Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i ii`* Re: Seriation21Rich
8 Dec 24 i ii `* Re: Seriation20Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii  `* Re: Seriation19Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii   +- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii   `* Re: Seriation17Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii    +* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii    i`- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii    `* Re: Seriation14Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii     `* Re: Seriation13Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii      +* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii      i`- Re: Seriation1Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii      `* Re: Seriation10Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii       `* Re: Seriation9Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii        +* Re: Seriation5Rich
1 Feb 25 i ii        i`* Re: Seriation4Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii        i +- Re: Seriation1Rich
1 Feb 25 i ii        i `* Re: Seriation2Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii        i  `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii        `* Re: Seriation3Richard Heathfield
10 Feb 25 i ii         `* Re: Seriation2Ben Bacarisse
10 Feb 25 i ii          `- Re: Seriation1Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i i`* Re: Seriation22Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i i +* Re: Seriation4Rich
1 Feb 25 i i i`* Re: Seriation3Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i i i +- Re: Seriation1Rich
1 Feb 25 i i i `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
2 Feb 25 i i `* Re: Seriation17David Entwistle
2 Feb 25 i i  +- Re: Seriation1Chris M. Thomasson
3 Feb 25 i i  `* Re: Seriation15David Entwistle
3 Feb 25 i i   `* Re: Seriation14Richard Heathfield
4 Feb 25 i i    `* Re: Seriation13David Entwistle
4 Feb 25 i i     `* Re: Seriation12Richard Heathfield
8 Feb 25 i i      +* Re: Seriation7David Entwistle
8 Feb 25 i i      i`* Re: Seriation6Richard Heathfield
8 Feb 25 i i      i `* Re: Seriation5David Entwistle
9 Feb 25 i i      i  `* Re: Seriation4Richard Harnden
9 Feb 25 i i      i   `* Re: Seriation3David Entwistle
9 Feb 25 i i      i    `* Re: Seriation2Richard Harnden
10 Feb 25 i i      i     `- Re: Seriation1David Entwistle
11 Feb 25 i i      `* Re: Seriation4Ben Bacarisse
11 Feb 25 i i       `* Re: Seriation3Richard Heathfield
13 Feb 25 i i        `* Re: Seriation2Ben Bacarisse
13 Feb 25 i i         `- Re: Seriation1Richard Heathfield
8 Dec 24 i `* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 `* Re: Seriation10Peter Fairbrother
8 Dec 24  `* Re: Seriation9Stefan Claas
9 Dec 24   `* Re: Seriation8Peter Fairbrother
9 Dec 24    `* Re: Seriation7Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     +* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     i`- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     `* Re: Seriation4Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24      `* Re: Seriation3Stefan Claas
14 Dec 24       `* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
15 Dec 24        `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas

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