Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?

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Sujet : Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?
De : qnivq.ragjvfgyr (at) *nospam* ogvagrearg.pbz (David Entwistle)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 23. Feb 2025, 11:19:37
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 08:57:02 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

Assumes "facts" not in evidence.

Quite right to ask. :)

You are probably correct in a lot of what you say, and I accept I may be
wrong in much of what I say. Particularly emulation, maybe that isn't the
cause of my problem.

I've posted some test sequences of the SCOS character set to uk.telecom.
Feel free to have a look using your preferred reader. I've concentrated on
the sequences where I've noticed I have a problem. There may be others I
haven't thought about. They set off as a tidy column of numbers, letters
and punctuation marks that are taken from the SCOS character set. I have
included back tick, for completeness.

I've then read the posts using Pan and Thunderbird. Both exhibit some
issues which would prohibit successful decryption in certain
circumstances.

Some of the sequence of characters that could be interpreted as emoticons
get removed and are replaced by unicode characters (or something else) and
displayed as an emoticon in both readers. In both cases the underlying
characters never reach the reader's display, so any attempt at
decrytption, using the ciphertext as presented, will fail. This includes:

:) – Smiley face
:( – Sad face
;) – Wink
:'( – Crying

The use of char(94) breaks the line feed in Pan's display window. Not a
huge problem, but just a p.i.t.a.
The use of char(42) causes text to be in bold in Pan's display window.
Again not a big problem.

I could work through the somewhat mangled ciphertext I see and replace the
unicode characters with the original ASCII ones, but that isn't going to
be a particularly easy learning experience for someone new to
cryptography. Coupled with the other formatting issues make it feel a bit
of a uphill task, which is easy to avoid if we accept some restriction on
the character set.

Please don't feel I getting at you over this. I'd like to take a greater
part in sci.crypt, but I don't think we're all seeing the same things,
which makes participation difficult.

Best wishes,

--
David Entwistle

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Feb 25 * @ SCOS Message Format ?34Byrl Raze Buckbriar
9 Feb 25 +- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Onion Courier
10 Feb 25 `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?32Richard Heathfield
10 Feb 25  `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?31Rich
10 Feb 25   `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?30Richard Heathfield
21 Feb 25    `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?29David Entwistle
21 Feb 25     `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?28Richard Heathfield
21 Feb 25      `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?27David Entwistle
22 Feb 25       `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?26Richard Heathfield
22 Feb 25        `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?25David Entwistle
22 Feb 25         `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?24Richard Heathfield
23 Feb 25          `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?23David Entwistle
23 Feb 25           `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?22Richard Heathfield
24 Feb 25            `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?21David Entwistle
24 Feb 25             +* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?18Richard Harnden
24 Feb 25             i+* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?16Richard Heathfield
24 Feb 25             ii+* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?13Richard Harnden
24 Feb 25             iii`* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?12Richard Heathfield
24 Feb 25             iii +* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?3Richard Harnden
24 Feb 25             iii i+- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Richard Heathfield
24 Feb 25             iii i`- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Rich
24 Feb 25             iii `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?8Rich
24 Feb 25             iii  `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?7Richard Heathfield
24 Feb 25             iii   `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?6Rich
25 Feb 25             iii    `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?5Richard Heathfield
25 Feb 25             iii     +- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Richard Harnden
25 Feb 25             iii     `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?3Rich
25 Feb 25             iii      `* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?2Richard Heathfield
25 Feb 25             iii       `- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Rich
24 Feb 25             ii`* Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?2David Entwistle
24 Feb 25             ii `- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Richard Heathfield
24 Feb 25             i`- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1David Entwistle
24 Feb 25             +- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Richard Heathfield
24 Feb 25             `- Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?1Jan Panteltje

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