Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US

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Sujet : Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US
De : chris.m.thomasson.1 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 29. Apr 2024, 21:29:30
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On 4/29/2024 10:45 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
On 4/28/2024 2:06 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
Rich wrote:
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Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote:
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If I would be forced, which I doubt, I would comment the code with
something like this:
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// backdoor begins here
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backdoor code
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// backdoor ends here
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and put in the README how to exchange that code with proper one.
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Likely would not work well.  Such forcing would likely also be
accompanied by a gag order preventing you from admitting the backdoor
even exists and so such comments and readme text would be a likely gag
order violation that would land you in jail.
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Well, I gues this may only apply to big FOSS projects, where they can
force teams, or an individual team member, but not the millions of FOSS
programmers out there.
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Another option for folks, living in West-Eurasia, might be to handle
over the correct code to people in BRICS countries and publish it there.
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We should also not forget that Democrats (back then Senator Biden),
in the U.S., started the Crypto War ...
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Think if an algorithm A that is published for anyone to implement. Not
raw code, but the algorithm itself. A standard, like HMAC or something.
There "might" be a backdoor in the algorithm itself, however its very,
VERY, very... hard to find. This is why I asked about HMAC having a
backdoor by default. Something that dr. spoofs a lot can take advantage
of. Rich said probably not, wrt the algorithm itself...
 But would a published algorithm not been more peer reviewed than later
a lot of code implementations, from various people?
 
I hope so! I ask this question about HMAC because my experimental encryption uses it.
http://fractallife247.com/test/hmac_cipher/ver_0_0_0_1?ct_hmac_cipher=409075759deda6c624863f74354fbf7e2acc9a01e6e9cc37c544a4c45a306137211c8f704c1b9a367dae45792768e627e4d19b3ac6a1a6116bc7a72efc6c37e05e55cce00350a31b0f1347bd1342534ba75c9b2bd7

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Apr 24 * FOSS and backdoors in the US32Marco Moock
24 Apr 24 +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 24 i+- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 24 i`- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Rich
27 Apr 24 +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US9Stefan Claas
28 Apr 24 i`* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US8Rich
28 Apr 24 i `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US7Stefan Claas
28 Apr 24 i  +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Rich
30 Apr 24 i  i`- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Phil Carmody
28 Apr 24 i  `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US4Chris M. Thomasson
29 Apr 24 i   `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Chris M. Thomasson
29 Apr 24 i    +- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
29 Apr 24 i    `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Rich
7 May 24 `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US19Edward Teach
9 May 24  `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US18Marco Moock
9 May 24   `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US17Chris M. Thomasson
9 May 24    +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Stefan Claas
9 May 24    i`- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
10 May 24    `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US14Rich
10 May 24     +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Chris M. Thomasson
10 May 24     i`* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Stefan Claas
10 May 24     i `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Peter Fairbrother
10 May 24     +- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Ian
10 May 24     `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US9Chris M. Thomasson
10 May 24      +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US5Rich
11 May 24      i`* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US4Chris M. Thomasson
11 May 24      i `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Rich
11 May 24      i  `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Chris M. Thomasson
11 May 24      i   `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
5 Jun 24      `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Edward Teach
5 Jun 24       +- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Peter Fairbrother
17 Jun 24       `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson

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