Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US

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Sujet : Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US
De : hackbeard (at) *nospam* linuxmail.org (Edward Teach)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 05. Jun 2024, 20:02:21
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On Fri, 10 May 2024 13:21:15 -0700
"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:

On 5/9/2024 3:15 PM, Rich wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: 
On 5/8/2024 9:27 PM, Marco Moock wrote: 
Am 07.05.2024 18:20 Uhr schrieb Edward Teach:
 
Backdoors.
>
When people use PRIVATE ENCRYPTION BEFORE any messaging enters a
public channel.......
>
......backdoors are the least of their worries! 
>
Isn't enough. There is a time when that message is unencrypted
(e.g. when entering it to the crypto application). The operating
system can then read the cleartext. If the backdoor is in the OS,
X11 etc., it still works here.
 
>
Go to a 100% "clean room", cloaked, cannot receive and/or send
anything...
>
Encrypt a message on a clean thumb drive. 
 
Where did you obtain the thumb drive?
 
Did you build it, from the ground up, or did you bring it into the
clean-room after purchase from a vendor?
 
If you purchased from a vendor, then how do you know said vendor did
not include a hardware backdoor on that thumb drive?
 
Take out the clean disk with a
single file on it. Destroy the computer... 
 
How did the computer get into the clean room?  How are you sure
that no hardware on the computer has a backdoor, or that no
software running on the computer has a backdoor? 
 
The computer would have to be clean. However, once its in the room,
it cannot communicate with the outside world, and gets utterly
destroyed after the encryption process. Turned into ashes.
 
Humm... Damn.
 
 
 
Exit the clean room.  This disk contains an encrypted file.
>
Is it safe? 
 
The answer depends upon whether the thumbdrive and/or the computer
used in the clean room contained a hardware or software back door. 
 

Sorry I started this thread......in my world "private encryption" only
needs to be private for twenty-four hours.....maybe less!!!

After that.......it doesn't matter who knows.................


Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Apr 24 * FOSS and backdoors in the US32Marco Moock
24 Apr 24 +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 24 i+- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
24 Apr 24 i`- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Rich
27 Apr 24 +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US9Stefan Claas
28 Apr 24 i`* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US8Rich
28 Apr 24 i `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US7Stefan Claas
28 Apr 24 i  +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Rich
30 Apr 24 i  i`- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Phil Carmody
28 Apr 24 i  `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US4Chris M. Thomasson
29 Apr 24 i   `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Chris M. Thomasson
29 Apr 24 i    +- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
29 Apr 24 i    `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Rich
7 May 24 `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US19Edward Teach
9 May 24  `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US18Marco Moock
9 May 24   `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US17Chris M. Thomasson
9 May 24    +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Stefan Claas
9 May 24    i`- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
10 May 24    `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US14Rich
10 May 24     +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Chris M. Thomasson
10 May 24     i`* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Stefan Claas
10 May 24     i `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Peter Fairbrother
10 May 24     +- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Ian
10 May 24     `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US9Chris M. Thomasson
10 May 24      +* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US5Rich
11 May 24      i`* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US4Chris M. Thomasson
11 May 24      i `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Rich
11 May 24      i  `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US2Chris M. Thomasson
11 May 24      i   `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson
5 Jun 24      `* Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US3Edward Teach
5 Jun 24       +- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Peter Fairbrother
17 Jun 24       `- Re: FOSS and backdoors in the US1Chris M. Thomasson

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