Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key

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De : chris.m.thomasson.1 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Chris M. Thomasson)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 19. Jun 2024, 21:41:07
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On 6/19/2024 12:48 PM, Rich wrote:
Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
Generate a hex key from a password? It seems like my site can do it:
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http://fractallife247.com/test/hmac_cipher/ver_0_0_0_1?ct_hmac_cipher=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It encrypts a key using the default password.  The key is generated
using the same program.  This example basically generates a key
using the default password, then encrypts said key using a different
password.
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Everybody can decrypt the generated key because the ciphertext in
the link uses the default password:
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https://i.ibb.co/BybrYDw/image.png
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The plaintext is:
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A key:
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f65952b125ba6860e21aef9c55e69e0612b153e5fd2599ac00b67945f9bec7563d5edf8bf9fa0db27aeb78b0c8f40f0a6a69b2cd720d59ecc73a01c1ccad0933cfe9e014dda35db6eaba760c9dbdff0f4ad24c5b702baab8e225189179b8bd
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Your site says it does key generation from 64 random bytes.  How do
you remember the key when traveling, with no device?
Wrt my HMAC cipher as is, you only need to remember the password for a given ciphertext in order to decrypt it.
However, afaict, this is not what you are looking for wrt key generation since my code generates a new ciphertext per encryption even if the plaintext and/or password is the same.

 
Or how can you trust your site, when your are on annual leave, out of
your country, and some bad boy customized your site?
Well, I guess you can examine the source code of my site. It's client only, no server side logic.

 A valid question -- and one that *also* applies to your argon2id on
github.  How can you be sure that some cracker did not change the
argon2id present there while you are away on holiday.
 Or, how can you trust that a github/microsoft insider with admin level
access did not swap out your good argon2id with a malicious argon2id.
 Or that a three letter agency, having taken interest in you for some
reason, has not gotten a secret court order to swap the argon2id with a
cracked one, and included a court ordered gag to prevent
github/microsoft from informing you of the swap?
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Jun 24 * Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key29Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key5Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 i+* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 ii+- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 ii`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Peter Fairbrother
19 Jun 24 i`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Peter Fairbrother
18 Jun 24 +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key15Rich
18 Jun 24 i`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key14Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 i `* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key13Rich
18 Jun 24 i  +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key6Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 i  i+* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key4Rich
18 Jun 24 i  ii`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 i  ii +- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
19 Jun 24 i  ii `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 i  i`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
18 Jun 24 i  `* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key6Rich
19 Jun 24 i   `* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key5Rich
19 Jun 24 i    +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Rich
20 Jun 24 i    i`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key2Rich
21 Jun 24 i    i `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
16 Jul 24 i    `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Paul Leyland
19 Jun 24 +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key6Chris M. Thomasson
19 Jun 24 i`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key5Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 i +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Rich
19 Jun 24 i i+- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Chris M. Thomasson
20 Jun 24 i i`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
19 Jun 24 i `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Jun 24 +- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Peter Fairbrother
19 Jun 24 `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Oscar

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