Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key

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Sujet : Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key
De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 20. Jun 2024, 04:14:45
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Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote:
Rich wrote:
 
Stefan Claas <pollux@tilde.club> wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
Generate a hex key from a password? It seems like my site can do it:
 
http://fractallife247.com/test/hmac_cipher/ver_0_0_0_1?ct_hmac_cipher=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
 
It encrypts a key using the default password.  The key is generated
using the same program.  This example basically generates a key
using the default password, then encrypts said key using a different
password.
 
Everybody can decrypt the generated key because the ciphertext in
the link uses the default password:
 
https://i.ibb.co/BybrYDw/image.png
 
The plaintext is:
 
A key:
 
f65952b125ba6860e21aef9c55e69e0612b153e5fd2599ac00b67945f9bec7563d5edf8bf9fa0db27aeb78b0c8f40f0a6a69b2cd720d59ecc73a01c1ccad0933cfe9e014dda35db6eaba760c9dbdff0f4ad24c5b702baab8e225189179b8bd
 
Your site says it does key generation from 64 random bytes.  How do
you remember the key when traveling, with no device?
 
Or how can you trust your site, when your are on annual leave, out of
your country, and some bad boy customized your site?
 
A valid question -- and one that *also* applies to your argon2id on
github.  How can you be sure that some cracker did not change the
argon2id present there while you are away on holiday.
 
Or, how can you trust that a github/microsoft insider with admin level
access did not swap out your good argon2id with a malicious argon2id.
 
Or that a three letter agency, having taken interest in you for some
reason, has not gotten a secret court order to swap the argon2id
with a cracked one, and included a court ordered gag to prevent
github/microsoft from informing you of the swap?
 
Prior upload and departure I can write down on a piece of paper the
shasum and once arrived at my destination I can compare the shasum
from the download with the shasum on paper.

That would work, presuming the border crossing guards do not question
your shasum paper....

Only problem would be IMHO, if the shasum would no longer match and I
have no plan B.

True, but at least you can recognize you've been targeted, and know not
to trust the binary currently on github.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Jun 24 * Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key29Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key5Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 i+* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 ii+- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 ii`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Peter Fairbrother
19 Jun 24 i`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Peter Fairbrother
18 Jun 24 +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key15Rich
18 Jun 24 i`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key14Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 i `* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key13Rich
18 Jun 24 i  +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key6Stefan Claas
18 Jun 24 i  i+* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key4Rich
18 Jun 24 i  ii`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 i  ii +- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
19 Jun 24 i  ii `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 i  i`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
18 Jun 24 i  `* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key6Rich
19 Jun 24 i   `* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key5Rich
19 Jun 24 i    +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Rich
20 Jun 24 i    i`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key2Rich
21 Jun 24 i    i `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
16 Jul 24 i    `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Paul Leyland
19 Jun 24 +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key6Chris M. Thomasson
19 Jun 24 i`* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key5Stefan Claas
19 Jun 24 i +* Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key3Rich
19 Jun 24 i i+- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Chris M. Thomasson
20 Jun 24 i i`- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Rich
19 Jun 24 i `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Chris M. Thomasson
19 Jun 24 +- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Peter Fairbrother
19 Jun 24 `- Re: Memorizing a 128 bit / 256 bit hex key1Oscar

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