Re: UK demands Apple break encryption to allow gov't spying wolrdwide, report says

On 09/02/2025 14:48, Richard Heathfield wrote:

On 09/02/2025 12:21, Peter Fairbrother wrote:

On 08/02/2025 23:25, Richard Heathfield wrote:

You might use it as a channel for sheer convenience, but it would be daft not to superencrypt.

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But people don't know how to do that. Even many clever people.

 It's easy. Instead of:
 apple < plain.txt
 you:
 cat plain.txt | aes_for_example > apple
 and Bob pipes through aes_for_example -d at his end.
 In other words, instead of sending plaintext through Apple, you send ciphertext.

But most people don't know how to open a terminal - even clever people. Just because they don't know computers, computer security, internet security, cryptography - does not make them stupid.
And even stupid people should have secure comms and data storage.
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Note that in the UK you have to give up keys to stored data on demand.

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With a warrant, yes, and that means evidence, which means the crook has already failed.

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Nope, no warrant needed. Just a demand from a mid-level policeman.

 Having read the relevant legislation, which is not the kind of document I'd like to read for the first time in a panic, I'm not convinced either way. This is a job for an actual lawyer.

Been there, done that, the tee-shirt is now rags. See eg
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/ukcrypto/
Peter Fairbrother