Re: Seriation

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Sujet : Re: Seriation
De : ben (at) *nospam* bsb.me.uk (Ben Bacarisse)
Groupes : sci.crypt
Date : 10. Feb 2025, 13:01:59
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Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:

On 01/02/2025 13:05, Stefan Claas wrote:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 01/02/2025 12:19, Stefan Claas wrote:
>
<snip>
>
This should be not
the case IMHO.
>
It is of course your prerogative to disagree with my design, but it is
likewise my prerogative to prefer a deliberately ASCII-only design for
use in an ASCII environment such as Usenet.
Well, maybe only a very few US hosting service are ASCII only in 2025,
but we should ignore them, as Eurasiens ... ;-) I added also the british
pound sign and Euro symbol. :-)
>
The NNTP RFC says: "Commands and replies are composed of characters from

s/The/An obsolete/

the ASCII character set.  When the transport service provides an 8-bit byte
(octet) transmission channel, each 7-bit character is transmitted right
justified in an octet with the high order bit cleared to zero."

Another says "The character set for all NNTP commands is UTF-8" and that
one is the one that most current servers adhere to.  It OK to pick and
choose ones sources, but you should not suggest that your opinion is the
only one supported by the RFCs, and you should certainly not suggest
that what you quote is authoritative.

...which makes UTF-8 characters contra regs.

It means that UTF-8 characters contravene an obsolete regulation.

We live for decades in UTF-8 times, as Eurasiens, mind you. :-)
>
"We" meaning people to whom it applies. Clearly they include you. I live in
simpler and happier times.

It is certainly simpler to have a more restricted character set, but I
was brought up by parents and teachers who would consider being forced
to write the modern forms of, for example, "facade", "nee" and "Zoe" an
abomination.  I still prefer to write them the traditional way (though I
have not done so here so you can see what I am talking about).

Quite apart from what spellings one prefers, there are all sorts of
English subjects like writing about phonetics or indicating stress in
poetry where, for me, the simpler times were not happier ones.

--
Ben.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Dec 24 * Seriation60Stefan Claas
7 Dec 24 +* Re: Seriation49Peter Fairbrother
8 Dec 24 i`* Re: Seriation48Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i +* Re: Seriation45Rich
8 Dec 24 i i+* Re: Seriation22Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i ii`* Re: Seriation21Rich
8 Dec 24 i ii `* Re: Seriation20Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii  `* Re: Seriation19Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii   +- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii   `* Re: Seriation17Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii    +* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii    i`- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii    `* Re: Seriation14Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii     `* Re: Seriation13Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii      +* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii      i`- Re: Seriation1Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii      `* Re: Seriation10Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii       `* Re: Seriation9Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii        +* Re: Seriation5Rich
1 Feb 25 i ii        i`* Re: Seriation4Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii        i +- Re: Seriation1Rich
1 Feb 25 i ii        i `* Re: Seriation2Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i ii        i  `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
1 Feb 25 i ii        `* Re: Seriation3Richard Heathfield
10 Feb 25 i ii         `* Re: Seriation2Ben Bacarisse
10 Feb 25 i ii          `- Re: Seriation1Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i i`* Re: Seriation22Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i i +* Re: Seriation4Rich
1 Feb 25 i i i`* Re: Seriation3Richard Heathfield
1 Feb 25 i i i +- Re: Seriation1Rich
1 Feb 25 i i i `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
2 Feb 25 i i `* Re: Seriation17David Entwistle
2 Feb 25 i i  +- Re: Seriation1Chris M. Thomasson
3 Feb 25 i i  `* Re: Seriation15David Entwistle
3 Feb 25 i i   `* Re: Seriation14Richard Heathfield
4 Feb 25 i i    `* Re: Seriation13David Entwistle
4 Feb 25 i i     `* Re: Seriation12Richard Heathfield
8 Feb 25 i i      +* Re: Seriation7David Entwistle
8 Feb 25 i i      i`* Re: Seriation6Richard Heathfield
8 Feb 25 i i      i `* Re: Seriation5David Entwistle
9 Feb 25 i i      i  `* Re: Seriation4Richard Harnden
9 Feb 25 i i      i   `* Re: Seriation3David Entwistle
9 Feb 25 i i      i    `* Re: Seriation2Richard Harnden
10 Feb 25 i i      i     `- Re: Seriation1David Entwistle
11 Feb 25 i i      `* Re: Seriation4Ben Bacarisse
11 Feb 25 i i       `* Re: Seriation3Richard Heathfield
13 Feb 25 i i        `* Re: Seriation2Ben Bacarisse
13 Feb 25 i i         `- Re: Seriation1Richard Heathfield
8 Dec 24 i `* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 i  `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
8 Dec 24 `* Re: Seriation10Peter Fairbrother
8 Dec 24  `* Re: Seriation9Stefan Claas
9 Dec 24   `* Re: Seriation8Peter Fairbrother
9 Dec 24    `* Re: Seriation7Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     +* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     i`- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24     `* Re: Seriation4Stefan Claas
10 Dec 24      `* Re: Seriation3Stefan Claas
14 Dec 24       `* Re: Seriation2Stefan Claas
15 Dec 24        `- Re: Seriation1Stefan Claas

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